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From: jonathan@jonmasters.org (Jon Masters)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-acpi] [RFC] ACPI on arm64 TODO List
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:36:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5492E65F.1010301@jonmasters.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54926052.5000105@jonmasters.org>

On 12/18/14, 12:04 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> On 12/16/14, 7:37 PM, Al Stone wrote:
>> On 12/16/2014 08:48 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
>
>>> I am rather concerned about the relationship between items described
>>> with _DSD and ACPI's existing device model. Describing the relationship
>>> between devices and their input clocks, regulators, and so on defeats
>>> much of the benefit ACPI is marketed as providing w.r.t. abstraction of
>>> the underlying platform (and as Arnd mentioned above, that's not the
>>> kind of platform we want to support with ACPI).
>>
>> My belief is that all those things should be set up into a known good
>> state by UEFI on initial boot.
>
> Correct. There should never be a situation in which any clocks are
> explicitly exposed in the DSDT. Clock state should be set as a side
> effect of calling ACPI methods to transition device state. _DSD is
> intended to implement simple additions to the core spec, such as
> metadata describing the MAC address, interface type, and PHY on a
> network device. But it should never be used to expose clock nets.
>
> I've spoken with nearly everyone building a 64-bit ARM server using ACPI
> and in nearly every case also reviewed their tables. Nobody is going to
> be so foolish on day one. The trick to some of the ongoing
> discussion/planning is to ensure that guidance prevents mistakes later.

Btw a little clarification. RH of course has commercial relations with 
many of those building first/second/third generation 64-bit ARM server 
designs. In that capacity we have reviewed nearly every SoC design as 
well as the firmware platform (including ACPI tables). We have a vested 
interest in ensuring that nobody builds anything that is crazy, and 
we're not the only OS vendor that is working to ensure such sanity.

Jon.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-18 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16  2:18 [RFC] ACPI on arm64 TODO List Al Stone
2014-12-16 11:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-16 15:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17  0:03     ` Al Stone
2014-12-17  9:25       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-18  4:57         ` Jon Masters
2014-12-18  9:55           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17 13:43       ` [Linaro-acpi] " Charles Garcia-Tobin
2014-12-16 15:48   ` Mark Rutland
2014-12-17  0:37     ` Al Stone
2014-12-17  9:08       ` G Gregory
2014-12-17 16:02       ` Mark Rutland
2014-12-17 16:52         ` Hurwitz, Sherry
2014-12-17 18:14       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-12-18  5:04       ` Jon Masters
2014-12-18 14:36         ` Jon Masters [this message]
2014-12-16 22:55   ` Al Stone
2014-12-17 17:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17 22:26   ` Grant Likely
2015-01-10 14:44     ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 10:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 12:00         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 19:40           ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-13 17:22             ` Grant Likely
2015-01-14  0:26               ` Al Stone
2015-01-15  4:07                 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 17:15                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 17:19                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 14:23       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-12 14:41         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 19:39           ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-12 19:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-13 14:12             ` Grant Likely
2015-01-14  1:21             ` Al Stone
2015-01-15 17:45               ` [Linaro-acpi] " Linda Knippers
2015-01-13 17:02         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-05 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-06 11:53   ` Catalin Marinas

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