From: jonathan@jonmasters.org (Jon Masters)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-acpi] [RFC] ACPI on arm64 TODO List
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:36:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5492E65F.1010301@jonmasters.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54926052.5000105@jonmasters.org>
On 12/18/14, 12:04 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> On 12/16/14, 7:37 PM, Al Stone wrote:
>> On 12/16/2014 08:48 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
>
>>> I am rather concerned about the relationship between items described
>>> with _DSD and ACPI's existing device model. Describing the relationship
>>> between devices and their input clocks, regulators, and so on defeats
>>> much of the benefit ACPI is marketed as providing w.r.t. abstraction of
>>> the underlying platform (and as Arnd mentioned above, that's not the
>>> kind of platform we want to support with ACPI).
>>
>> My belief is that all those things should be set up into a known good
>> state by UEFI on initial boot.
>
> Correct. There should never be a situation in which any clocks are
> explicitly exposed in the DSDT. Clock state should be set as a side
> effect of calling ACPI methods to transition device state. _DSD is
> intended to implement simple additions to the core spec, such as
> metadata describing the MAC address, interface type, and PHY on a
> network device. But it should never be used to expose clock nets.
>
> I've spoken with nearly everyone building a 64-bit ARM server using ACPI
> and in nearly every case also reviewed their tables. Nobody is going to
> be so foolish on day one. The trick to some of the ongoing
> discussion/planning is to ensure that guidance prevents mistakes later.
Btw a little clarification. RH of course has commercial relations with
many of those building first/second/third generation 64-bit ARM server
designs. In that capacity we have reviewed nearly every SoC design as
well as the firmware platform (including ACPI tables). We have a vested
interest in ensuring that nobody builds anything that is crazy, and
we're not the only OS vendor that is working to ensure such sanity.
Jon.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-18 14:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-16 2:18 [RFC] ACPI on arm64 TODO List Al Stone
2014-12-16 11:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-16 15:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17 0:03 ` Al Stone
2014-12-17 9:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-18 4:57 ` Jon Masters
2014-12-18 9:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17 13:43 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Charles Garcia-Tobin
2014-12-16 15:48 ` Mark Rutland
2014-12-17 0:37 ` Al Stone
2014-12-17 9:08 ` G Gregory
2014-12-17 16:02 ` Mark Rutland
2014-12-17 16:52 ` Hurwitz, Sherry
2014-12-17 18:14 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-12-18 5:04 ` Jon Masters
2014-12-18 14:36 ` Jon Masters [this message]
2014-12-16 22:55 ` Al Stone
2014-12-17 17:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-17 22:26 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-10 14:44 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 12:00 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 19:40 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-13 17:22 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-14 0:26 ` Al Stone
2015-01-15 4:07 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 17:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 17:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-12 14:23 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-12 14:41 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-12 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-12 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-13 14:12 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-14 1:21 ` Al Stone
2015-01-15 17:45 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Linda Knippers
2015-01-13 17:02 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-05 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-06 11:53 ` Catalin Marinas
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