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From: jcm@redhat.com (Jon Masters)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 04/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce early_param for "acpi" and pass acpi=force to enable ACPI
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:05:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54BFCE4D.2060806@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150121154243.GE6358@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 01/21/2015 10:42 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:29:52PM +0000, Jon Masters wrote:
>> On 01/21/2015 10:23 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> I have some questions for the ACPI and EFI folk:
>>>
>>> 1. When booting with ACPI, are the EFI run-time services required for
>>>    anything? If yes, Xen may have a bigger problem
>>
>> Yes. At least for some things. For example, installing an Operating
>> System would require that you make runtime services calls to set the
>> BootOrder/BootNext variables, and so on. Further, we use the GetTime
>> service and EFI based reboot to avoid having special drivers. I had
>> those added to SBBR as requirements for that reason.
> 
> So what would a kexec'ed kernel do here? Or we usually expect it to be
> short lived and doesn't need reboot, nor GetTime.

In the use case that I have, it'll use EFI Runtime Servies to handle
both the time of day (which it will need) and to subsequently reboot.
This is currently being worked on (integration into kdump).

> Xen is slightly more problematic but I wonder whether it could run a
> (paravirtualised) UEFI.
> 
>>> 2. Could a boot loader (either kernel doing kexec or Xen) emulate the
>>>    EFI system/config tables and still make them useful to the kernel but
>>>    without EFI_BOOT or EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES?
>>
>> Yes. But again, without the other required pieces (including the
>> services function pointers in the systab which are required) you'd crash
>> soon after boot trying to make those calls.
> 
> My point was whether you can still pass information like RSDP address
> via EFI tables but explicitly disable runtime services so that the
> kernel won't try to make such calls (and crash).

Yes. As Graeme says, it works just to pass in the ACPI information and
turn off EFI *BUT* it does not work to say you have EFI and then not
provide the correct EFI services. To do so is out of spec, and in fact
it's one reason we weren't able to turn the GetTime service on generally
for x86 - some older x86 boxes didn't implement it originally (another
reason on our end we're requiring all of these services on day one so
that there won't be time for someone to miss them in firmware).

Jon.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-21 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-14 15:04 [PATCH v7 00/17] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 01/17] arm64: allow late use of early_ioremap Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:44   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 02/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Get RSDP and ACPI boot-time tables Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:45   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 03/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce sleep-arm.c Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:45   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 04/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce early_param for "acpi" and pass acpi=force to enable ACPI Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:46   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-19 11:42   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 11:55     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-19 13:51       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 14:00         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-19 14:22           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 15:13         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-19 16:59           ` Jon Masters
2015-01-19 17:52             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 18:01               ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-20  9:29                 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 10:56                   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20 11:10                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-20 12:17                     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 12:31                     ` Leif Lindholm
2015-01-20 19:20                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-21  9:43                     ` Parth Dixit
2015-01-21 15:23                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-21 15:29                       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-21 15:42                         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-21 15:56                           ` Graeme Gregory
2015-01-21 16:05                           ` Jon Masters [this message]
2015-01-21 16:16                             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-21 16:51                               ` Parth Dixit
2015-01-21 16:10                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-22 12:29                         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-01-28 17:58   ` [Linaro-acpi] " Timur Tabi
2015-01-28 18:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-28 18:08     ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-28 18:14       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-28 18:18         ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-29 15:19           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-29 18:20             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-29 18:21               ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-29 18:28                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-29 18:34                   ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-29 18:44                     ` Jon Masters
2015-01-29 23:11                       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-29 23:16                         ` Jon Masters
2015-01-29 23:30                           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-30 11:13               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-30 14:48                 ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-30 15:12                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 05/17] ARM64 / ACPI: If we chose to boot from acpi then disable FDT Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:46   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-19 11:45   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 06/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Make PCI optional for ACPI on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:46   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16  9:49   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-18  6:25     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-18  6:31       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-18  6:46         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-18  9:29           ` Graeme Gregory
2015-01-18 12:32             ` Jon Masters
2015-01-19  4:26             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-19 10:37             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-19 10:42       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20  2:39         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 11:00           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20 11:56             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 12:26             ` [Linaro-acpi] " Tomasz Nowicki
2015-01-20 15:10               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 07/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Disable ACPI if FADT revision is less than 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:47   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 14:33   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-18  5:49     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-19 11:50   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20  3:05     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 08/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Get PSCI flags in FADT for PSCI init Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:47   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 09/17] ACPI / table: Print GIC information when MADT is parsed Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:47   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 10/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse MADT for SMP initialization Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:48   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 18:18   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-20 13:09     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 15:16       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-14 15:04 ` [PATCH v7 11/17] ACPI / processor: Make it possible to get CPU hardware ID via GICC Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:48   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-20 11:17   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-20 12:26     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-20 16:16   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 12/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce ACPI_IRQ_MODEL_GIC and register device's gsi Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:48   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 10:45   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 13/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Add GICv2 specific ACPI boot support Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16 11:15   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-16 13:54     ` Grant Likely
2015-01-16 14:37       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-22 12:46         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-22 14:46           ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-23  9:38             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-27 16:12         ` Grant Likely
2015-01-29 15:29           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-29 16:06             ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-01-20 10:40     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-01-20 13:05       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 14/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse GTDT to initialize arch timer Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 15/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Select ACPI_REDUCED_HARDWARE_ONLY if ACPI is enabled on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 16/17] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:50   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-14 15:05 ` [PATCH v7 17/17] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 18:54   ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-15 16:26 ` [PATCH v7 00/17] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Grant Likely
2015-01-15 18:23   ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-15 19:02     ` Mark Brown
2015-01-15 20:04       ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-15 20:31         ` Mark Brown
2015-01-15 20:51           ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-16 11:49             ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16  7:24           ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-16 10:10         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 12:05           ` Mark Brown
2015-01-16 12:29             ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 16:54               ` Mark Brown
2015-01-18  6:36           ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 21:31     ` Al Stone
2015-01-15 21:38       ` Jon Masters
2015-01-16 10:20       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 15:17         ` [Linaro-acpi] " Al Stone
2015-01-16 15:23           ` Al Stone
2015-01-16 15:44           ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
2015-01-16  7:17     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-16 10:04       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 14:45       ` Tom Lendacky
2015-01-16 14:55         ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 15:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-16 15:25             ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-16 15:33             ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 15:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-16 15:43                 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-16 15:49                 ` Will Deacon
2015-01-16 15:53                   ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-17 17:53                     ` Rob Herring
2015-01-16 17:12                   ` Tom Lendacky
2015-01-16 15:16           ` Tom Lendacky
2015-01-16 16:29     ` Grant Likely
2015-01-16 17:20       ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-17 11:52       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-15 18:58 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-15 19:49 ` Mark Langsdorf
2015-01-16  8:37   ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-15 21:33 ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2015-01-27 17:46 ` Timur Tabi
2015-01-28 13:53   ` Hanjun Guo

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