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From: zhaoshenglong@huawei.com (Shannon Zhao)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Discussion] how to implement external power down for ARM
Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 21:02:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <554B624A.1010309@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_EJSm_OHxsGvDfydacHHz=RcvrHHCg_LEFpLCBUxHmtA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2015/5/7 20:34, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 7 May 2015 at 13:18, Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> wrote:
>> On 2015/5/7 20:12, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On 7 May 2015 at 13:10, Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>> BTW, IIUC QEMU doesn't support the gracefully reboot support. The reboot
>>>> depends on libvirt or other management tools. So the reboot case in
>>>> virtualization is firstly poweroff, then start again.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by this -- QEMU supports 'reset this
>>> VM' at the machine emulation level, so if we can tell the guest
>>> to reboot then it should as part of this process issue the
>>> PSCI SYSTEM_RESET command, which QEMU/KVM will then handle
>>> to do a reset of the VM.
> 
>> Yes, QEMU supports reset, but doesn't support (gracefully) reboot.
> 
> Isn't that what this ACPI work is about? Tell the guest to initiate
> a graceful reboot, and then the guest will tell QEMU to reboot
> the emulated h/w when it's ready.
> 

The ACPI only tells guest to poweroff not reboot. I checked this on x86.
When using libvirt to start a VM, libvirt pass "-no-shutdown" to QEMU
that makes sure the QEMU process will not disappear when guest
poweroffs. When executing "virsh reboot VMname", libvirt send
"system_powerdown" to QEMU and when guest poweroffs libvirt send
"system_reset" to QEMU to restart VM.

So there is not a single external reboot command for ACPI.

>> And
>> reset doesn't depends on the guest, it just restart VM forcefully.
>> Reboot likes poweroff and start, while reset likes destroy and start.
> 
> I (and QEMU) think there is no visible difference between
> poweroff-and-restart and destroy-recreate-and-restart...
> 

It is different to guest.

-- 
Shannon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-07 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-30  1:03 [Discussion] how to implement external power down for ARM Shannon Zhao
2015-04-30  8:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-30  9:08   ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-30  9:19     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-30  9:29     ` Mark Rutland
2015-04-30  9:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-04  2:09         ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-04 15:49           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-05  2:57             ` Joel Stanley
2015-05-05  9:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-05 10:51                 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-05 10:55                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-05 11:13                     ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-06  6:56                       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-06  7:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-06  8:19                           ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-06  8:37                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-06  8:41                               ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-06 10:14                             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-07  2:39                           ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-07  8:55                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-07  9:18                               ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-07  9:43                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-07 12:10                                   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-07 12:12                                     ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-07 12:18                                       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-07 12:34                                         ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-07 12:48                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-07 13:02                                           ` Shannon Zhao [this message]
2015-04-30 13:38       ` Hanjun Guo
2015-05-04  1:55         ` Shannon Zhao

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