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From: timo.kokkonen@offcode.fi (Timo Kokkonen)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCHv8 03/10] watchdog: core: Introduce default watchdog policy
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 08:45:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555C1F88.90203@offcode.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555BDFD4.6050003@roeck-us.net>

On 20.05.2015 04:13, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 05/19/2015 01:26 AM, Timo Kokkonen wrote:
>> Traditionally there have been no such thing as a policy for
>> watchdogs. The watchdog timer was simply explicitly stopped at driver
>> probe time and there was nothing else to do. Now that we have ability
>> to work around HW disabilities in the watchdog core, it is time to
>> introduce more policy options.
>>
>> The default option is to shut down the watchdog driver, as
>> before. This ensures backward compatibility with current kernels and
>> hardware that might have a watchdog, but user has not set up a
>> watchdog daemon at all.
>>
>> A new option is introduced to keep the watchdog running or start it up
>> at boot up. This is useful on many production systems that rely on the
>> watchdog to reboot the device in case a crash. With this option even
>> early kernel crashes or early user space crashes will lead to a reboot
>> even though watchdog daemon has not opened and started the watchdog
>> device yet.
>>
>> The third introduced option is to not touch the hardware at all in
>> case bootloader have made an intelligent decision about the watchdog
>> state and does not know how to tell kernel about it. The watchdog
>> state is not touched until userspace takes over it.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Timo Kokkonen <timo.kokkonen@offcode.fi>
>
> Dislike. I don't think it is a good idea to have configuration options
> like this. This means users will have to deal with those "default"
> options for an entire distribution, which I don't think is desirable.
> Maybe for you, but not for everyone, and definitely not for me.

The configuration option was suggested by Uwe Kleine-K?nig. I think it 
makes sense as there would not be otherwise any other way to enable the 
early-timeout-sec as device tree. I would think that for example in some 
server environment it would be good to enable watchdogs as early as 
possible and there probably are no device tree available.

> I think you are trying to do too much in your patch set.
> Can we possibly focus on getting early timeout to an acceptable form
> instead of trying to do everything at the same time.

I would be happy to do it the way that guarantees the inclusion, but I 
feel that I am getting conflicting feedback from different people giving 
review. I appreciate any concrete guidance you can give about the 
direction I should go with the patch set.

Thanks,
-Timo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-20  5:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-19  8:25 [PATCHv8 00/10] watchdog: Extend kernel API and add early_timeout_sec feature Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 01/10] watchdog: Rename watchdog_active to watchdog_hw_active Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-20  1:10   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-20  5:37     ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-20 13:46       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-29 12:43         ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 02/10] watchdog: core: Ping watchdog on behalf of user space when needed Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-20  1:22   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-20  6:18     ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 03/10] watchdog: core: Introduce default watchdog policy Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-20  1:13   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-20  5:45     ` Timo Kokkonen [this message]
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 04/10] watchdog: core: Allow extending early timeout Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-20  1:16   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 05/10] Documentation/watchdog: Document watchdog core API changes Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 06/10] devicetree: Document generic watchdog properties Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 07/10] Documentation/watchdog: watchdog-test.c: Add support for changing timeout Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 08/10] watchdog: at91sam9_wdt: Convert to use new watchdog core extensions Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 09/10] watchdog: imx2_wdt: Convert to use new " Timo Kokkonen
2015-05-19  8:26 ` [PATCHv8 10/10] watchdog: omap_wdt: " Timo Kokkonen

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