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From: marc.zyngier@arm.com (Marc Zyngier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] arm64/kvm: Add generic v8 KVM target
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:32:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558A7936.7020109@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150624085128.GA22785@cbox>

Hi Christoffer,

On 24/06/15 09:51, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 09:29:56AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On 22/06/15 09:44, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On 17 June 2015 at 10:00, Suzuki K. Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> wrote:
>>>> From: "Suzuki K. Poulose" <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
>>>>
>>>> This patch adds a generic ARM v8 KVM target cpu type for use
>>>> by the new CPUs which eventualy ends up using the common sys_reg
>>>> table. For backward compatibility the existing targets have been
>>>> preserved. Any new target CPU that can be covered by generic v8
>>>> sys_reg tables should make use of the new generic target.
>>>
>>> How do you intend this to work for cross-host migration?
>>
>> It is not meant to work for cross migration at all.
>>
>>> Is the idea that the kernel guarantees that "generic" looks
>>> 100% the same to the guest regardless of host hardware? I'm
>>> not sure that can be made to work, given impdef differences
>>> in ID register values, bp/wp registers, and so on.
>>>
>>> Given that, it seems to me that we still need to provide
>>> KVM_ARM_TARGET_$THISCPU defines so userspace can request
>>> a specific guest CPU flavour; so what does this patch
>>> provide that isn't already provided by just having userspace
>>> query for the "preferred" CPU type as it does already?
>>
>> The way I see this working is that a "generic" CPU cannot be migrated
>> (because we don't know anything about it). If it can be identified as a
>> known (non generic) implementation, then we can migrate it.
>>
> Concretely, how should this work?  Be enforced by userspace or should we
> deny certain SET_ONE_REG operations from working on this target?

I can definitely see MIDR overriding failing on a generic CPU. Also, you
shouldn't be able to select a generic CPU if we know about the physical CPU.

> 
> Also, can we imagine any scenario where the generic CPU cannot me
> modeled for a VM on a specific piece of hardware (current or future)?

What is the definition of a generic CPU here? In the above, generic
really means "Unknown", so I can't immediately see what it would mean to
model this.

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-24  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-17  9:00 [PATCH] arm64/kvm: Add generic v8 KVM target Suzuki K. Poulose
2015-06-19 20:31 ` Timur Tabi
2015-06-22  6:47   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-22  8:44 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-23 12:39   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-23 14:03     ` Suzuki K. Poulose
2015-06-23 14:16       ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-24  8:29   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-24  8:51     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-24  9:32       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2015-06-25 12:30         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-25 12:40           ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-25 13:44             ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-25 13:49               ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-26  9:53                 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-29 17:13                   ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2015-06-29 17:30                     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-29 17:38                       ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-29 17:52                         ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-29 18:39                           ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
     [not found]                             ` <D805D093-CCFE-4835-853A-B2654DAA10A1@caviumnetworks.com>
2015-07-03  8:08                               ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-03  8:12                                 ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-03  8:28                                   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-03  9:34                                     ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-03 10:10                                       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17  9:33                                         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-17  9:56                                           ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17 10:15                                             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-17 10:19                                               ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17 17:56                                                 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh

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