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From: tomasz.nowicki@linaro.org (Tomasz Nowicki)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 05/11] x86, pci, acpi: Move arch-agnostic MMCONFIG (aka ECAM) and ACPI code out of arch/x86/ directory
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 11:59:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55ED6010.3020406@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E4340D.6050004@linaro.org>

On 31.08.2015 13:01, Tomasz Nowicki wrote:
> On 08.06.2015 17:14, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 03:57:38AM +0100, Hanjun Guo wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>>>>> Why can't we make use of the ECAM implementation used by
>>>>>>>>> pci-host-generic
>>>>>>>>> and drivers/pci/access.c?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We had that question when I had posted MMCFG patch set separately,
>>>>>>>> please see:
>>>>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/11/492
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but the real question is, why do we need to have PCI config
>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>> up and running before a bus struct is even created ? I think the
>>>>>>> reason is
>>>>>>> the PCI configuration address space format (ACPI 6.0, Table 5-27,
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>> 108):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "PCI Configuration space addresses must be confined to devices on
>>>>>>> PCI Segment Group 0, bus 0. This restriction exists to accommodate
>>>>>>> access to fixed hardware prior to PCI bus enumeration".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On HW reduced platforms I do not even think this is required at all,
>>>>>>> we have to look into this to avoid code duplication that might well
>>>>>>> turn out useless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is only for the fixed hardware, which will be not available for
>>>>>> ARM64 (reduced hardware mode), but in Generic Hardware Programming
>>>>>> Model, we using OEM-provided ACPI Machine Language (AML) code to
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> generic hardware registers, this will be available for reduced
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So in ACPI spec, it says: (ACPI 6.0 page 66, last paragraph)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACPI defines eight address spaces that may be accessed by generic
>>>>>> hardware implementations. These include:
>>>>>> * System I/O space
>>>>>> * System memory space
>>>>>> * PCI configuration space
>>>>>> * Embedded controller space
>>>>>> * System Management Bus (SMBus) space
>>>>>> * CMOS
>>>>>> * PCI BAR Target
>>>>>> * IPMI space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if any device using the PCI address space for control, such
>>>>>> as a system reset control device, its address space can be reside
>>>>>> in PCI configuration space (who can prevent a OEM do that crazy
>>>>>> thing? :) ), and it should be accessible before the PCI bus is
>>>>>> created.
>>>>>
>>>>> Us, by changing attitude and questioning features whose usefulness
>>>>> is questionable. I will look into this and raise the point, I am not
>>>>> thrilled by the idea of adding another set of PCI accessor functions
>>>>> and drivers because we have to access a register through PCI before
>>>>> enumerating the bus (and on arm64 this is totally useless since
>>>>> we are not meant to support fixed HW anyway). Maybe we can make acpica
>>>>> code use a "special" stub (ACPI specific, PCI configuration space
>>>>> address
>>>>> space has restrictions anyway), I have to review this set in its
>>>>> entirety to see how to do that (and I would kindly ask you to do
>>>>> it too, before saying it is not possible to implement it).
>>>>
>>>> I'm willing to do that, actually, if we don't need a mechanism to
>>>> access PCI config space before the bus is created, the code can be
>>>> simplified a lot.
>>>
>>> After more investigation on the spec and the ACPI core code, I'm
>>> still not convinced that accessing to PCI config space before PCI
>>> bus creating is impossible, also there is no enough ARM64 hardware
>>> to prove that too. But I think we can go in this way, reuse the
>>> ECAM implementation by pci-host-generic for now, and implement the PCI
>>> accessor functions before enumerating PCI bus when needed in the
>>> future, does it make sense?
>>
>> You mean we rewrite the patch to make sure we can use the PCI host
>> generic
>> driver with MCFG and we leave the acpica PCI config call empty stubs on
>> arm64 (as they are now) ?
>>
>
> Hi Bjorn, Rafael,
>
> Lorenzo pointed out very important problem we are having with PCI config
> space access for ARM64. Please refer to the above discussion and add
> your 2 cents. Can we forget about accessing PCI config space (for
> Hardware Reduced profile) before PCI bus creation? If not, do you see a
> way to use drivers/pci/access.c accessors here, like acpica change? Any
> opinion is very appreciated.
>

Kindly remainder.

Thanks,
Tomasz

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-07  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-26 12:49 [PATCH 00/11] ARM64 PCI hostbridge init based on ACPI Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 01/11] ARM64 / PCI: introduce struct pci_controller for ACPI Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 16:58   ` Liviu Dudau
2015-05-26 17:20     ` Jiang Liu
2015-05-27  8:21       ` Hanjun Guo
2015-09-07  4:14         ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2015-09-07  8:45           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-09-08 13:35             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-05-27  9:47       ` Liviu Dudau
2015-05-27 11:29         ` Jiang Liu
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 02/11] x86, pci: Clean up comment about buggy MMIO config space access for AMD Fam10h CPUs Hanjun Guo
2015-08-31 12:04   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86, pci: Abstract PCI config accessors and use AMD Fam10h workaround exclusively Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 04/11] x86, pci: Reorder logic of pci_mmconfig_insert() function Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 05/11] x86, pci, acpi: Move arch-agnostic MMCONFIG (aka ECAM) and ACPI code out of arch/x86/ directory Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 17:08   ` Will Deacon
2015-05-27  8:06     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-06-02 13:32       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-06-04  9:28         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-06-04 10:22           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-06-04 12:28             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-06-08  2:57               ` Hanjun Guo
2015-06-08 15:14                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-08-31 11:01                   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-07  9:59                     ` Tomasz Nowicki [this message]
2015-09-08 15:07                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-09-09 13:47                         ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-11 11:20                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-09-11 12:35                             ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-14  9:37                               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-09-14 11:34                                 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-14 14:55                             ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-25 16:02                               ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-25 16:19                                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-10-15 13:22                               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-10-15 14:34                                 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-10-15 16:26                                   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-10-15 18:51                                     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 06/11] pci, acpi, mcfg: Provide generic implementation of MCFG code initialization Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86, pci: mmconfig_{32, 64}.c code refactoring - remove code duplication Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 08/11] x86, pci, ecam: mmconfig_64.c becomes default implementation for ECAM driver Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 09/11] pci, acpi, mcfg: Share ACPI PCI config space accessors Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 10/11] XEN / PCI: Remove the dependence on arch x86 when PCI_MMCONFIG=y Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 13:54   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-05-26 14:00     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-05-26 14:54       ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-05-26 15:44         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-05-27  3:55           ` Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 12:49 ` [PATCH 11/11] ARM64 / PCI / ACPI: support for ACPI based PCI hostbridge init Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 15:12   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-05-27  7:31     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-05-26 17:13   ` Will Deacon
2015-05-26 17:24     ` Jiang Liu
2015-05-27  0:30 ` [PATCH 00/11] ARM64 PCI hostbridge init based on ACPI Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-05-27  3:57   ` Hanjun Guo
2015-06-08 12:05     ` Jagan Teki
2015-06-10  2:47       ` Hanjun Guo
2015-10-15 19:15 ` Jon Masters
2015-10-15 23:42   ` Hanjun Guo
2015-10-15 23:49     ` Jon Masters
2015-12-07 20:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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