From: peter@hurleysoftware.com (Peter Hurley)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: console vs earlycon ?
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:24:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5627E679.1050207@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3890353.0icCv0Zeuq@wuerfel>
On 10/21/2015 03:00 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 October 2015 11:32:15 Peter Hurley wrote:
>> On 10/21/2015 10:13 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 21 October 2015 09:53:47 Peter Hurley wrote:
>>>> I'm assuming the issue with trying to get console_init() working
>>>> is because the dummy color console causes the earlycon to be disabled?
>>>
>>> I don't think so.
>>>
>>> My line of thinking was more about usability: earlycon requires that
>>> you edit the kernel command line at the moment, while console_init()
>>> doesn't require any user interaction and just uses the stdout-path.
>>>
>>> I guess we could enable earlycon using a Kconfig symbol if we want
>>> to, or make it a per-architecture decision whether it's enabled even
>>> in the absence of the command line flag.
>>
>> Ah, I see. You want to start the stdout-path console at console_init()
>> time.
>
> Yes, I see this as a tradeoff: we want the console to be as early as
> possible in order to report boot-time errors to the user, but not so early
> to require hacks that can cause problems themselves. earlycon has to
> do some scary stuff and is relatively recent, while the hacks
> necessary for console_init() are much older and better tested.
I assume you mean the hacks necessary to get _earlycon_ working at
console_init() time, because the hacks necessary to get non-8250
serial consoles working at console_init() would be extensive and
brand new.
Regards,
Peter Hurley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-21 19:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-21 8:21 console vs earlycon ? Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 8:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 9:09 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 9:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 9:30 ` Masahiro Yamada
2015-10-21 10:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 13:53 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 14:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 15:32 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-21 19:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 19:24 ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2015-10-21 22:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-21 13:20 ` Peter Hurley
2015-10-22 4:47 ` Masahiro Yamada
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