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From: ddutile@redhat.com (Don Dutile)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Summary of LPC guest MSI discussion in Santa Fe
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 11:00:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5825EB29.3040805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161111111944.GO2078@8bytes.org>

On 11/11/2016 06:19 AM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:46:01AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
>> In the case of x86, we know that DMA mappings overlapping the MSI
>> doorbells won't be translated correctly, it's not a valid mapping for
>> that range, and therefore the iommu driver backing the IOMMU API
>> should describe that reserved range and reject mappings to it.
>
> The drivers actually allow mappings to the MSI region via the IOMMU-API,
> and I think it should stay this way also for other reserved ranges.
> Address space management is done by the IOMMU-API user already (and has
> to be done there nowadays), be it a DMA-API implementation which just
> reserves these regions in its address space allocator or be it VFIO with
> QEMU, which don't map RAM there anyway. So there is no point of checking
> this again in the IOMMU drivers and we can keep that out of the
> mapping/unmapping fast-path.
>
>> For PCI devices userspace can examine the topology of the iommu group
>> and exclude MMIO ranges of peer devices based on the BARs, which are
>> exposed in various places, pci-sysfs as well as /proc/iomem.  For
>> non-PCI or MSI controllers... ???
>
> Right, the hardware resources can be examined. But maybe this can be
> extended to also cover RMRR ranges? Then we would be able to assign
> devices with RMRR mappings to guests.
>
eh gads no!

Assigning devices w/RMRR's is a security issue waiting to happen, if
it doesn't crash the system before the guest even gets the device --
reset the device before assignment; part of device is gathering system
environmental data; if BIOS/SMM support doesn't get env. data update,
it NMI's the system..... in fear that it may overheat ...


>
>
> 	Joerg
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-11 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-03 21:39 [RFC 0/8] KVM PCIe/MSI passthrough on ARM/ARM64 (Alt II) Eric Auger
2016-11-04  4:02 ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-08  2:45   ` Summary of LPC guest MSI discussion in Santa Fe (was: Re: [RFC 0/8] KVM PCIe/MSI passthrough on ARM/ARM64 (Alt II)) Will Deacon
2016-11-08 14:27     ` Summary of LPC guest MSI discussion in Santa Fe Auger Eric
2016-11-08 17:54       ` Will Deacon
2016-11-08 19:02         ` Don Dutile
2016-11-08 19:10           ` Will Deacon
2016-11-09  7:43           ` Auger Eric
2016-11-08 16:02     ` Don Dutile
2016-11-08 20:29     ` Summary of LPC guest MSI discussion in Santa Fe (was: Re: [RFC 0/8] KVM PCIe/MSI passthrough on ARM/ARM64 (Alt II)) Christoffer Dall
2016-11-08 23:35       ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-09  2:52         ` Summary of LPC guest MSI discussion in Santa Fe Don Dutile
2016-11-09 17:03           ` Will Deacon
2016-11-09 18:59             ` Don Dutile
2016-11-09 19:23               ` Christoffer Dall
2016-11-09 20:01                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-10 14:40                   ` Joerg Roedel
2016-11-10 17:07                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-09 20:31                 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-09 22:17                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-09 22:25                     ` Will Deacon
2016-11-09 23:24                       ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-09 23:38                         ` Will Deacon
2016-11-09 23:59                           ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-10  0:14                             ` Auger Eric
2016-11-10  0:55                               ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-10  2:01                                 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-10 11:14                                   ` Auger Eric
2016-11-10 17:46                                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-11 11:19                                       ` Joerg Roedel
2016-11-11 15:50                                         ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-11 16:05                                           ` Alex Williamson
2016-11-14 15:19                                             ` Joerg Roedel
2016-11-11 16:25                                           ` Don Dutile
2016-11-11 16:00                                         ` Don Dutile [this message]
2016-11-10 14:52                               ` Joerg Roedel
2016-11-09 20:11               ` Robin Murphy
2016-11-10 15:18                 ` Joerg Roedel
2016-11-21  5:13     ` Jon Masters
2016-11-23 20:12       ` Don Dutile

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