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From: "Nazle Asmade, Muhammad Nazim Amirul" <muhammad.nazim.amirul.nazle.asmade@altera.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] arm64: dts: socfpga: agilex5: Add SoCDK TSN Config2 board
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:54:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a0c962e-1af0-4d6a-b871-d8a0b0197ff5@altera.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4cf8d95-0467-4bdc-8e19-228ced3a8bbc@lunn.ch>

On 30/6/2026 11:25 pm, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 02:39:50PM +0000, Nazle Asmade, Muhammad Nazim Amirul wrote:
>> On 30/6/2026 9:58 pm, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>>> + * gmac1 is the TSN port. The MAC operates in GMII mode internally
>>>> + * while the PHY-side interface is RGMII, so mac-mode and phy-mode differ.
>>>> + */
>>>> +&gmac1 {
>>>> +  status = "okay";
>>>> +  phy-mode = "rgmii"; /* TX/RX clock delays provided by Agilex5 I/O hardware */
>>> Could you provide more details about this. I want to understand the
>>> big picture.
>>>
>>> Normally we talk about the PCB providing the delays. This sounds like
>>> it is the FPGA? So i need convincing this is correct.
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Thanks for your quick review and yes, it is the FPGA — specifically a
>> soft IP block in the FPGA fabric that implements the RGMII clock delays
>> and is configured before Linux boots via the FPGA bitstream. The driver
>> must not add additional delays on top.
>
> So it depends on how the converter block is described, but ....
>
>  From a big picture, MAC and PHY pair, it is the MAC which
> implements the delays.
>
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.15/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-controller.yaml#L346
>
> # There are a small number of cases where the MAC has hard coded
> # delays which cannot be disabled. The 'phy-mode' only describes the
> # PCB.  The inability to disable the delays in the MAC does not change
> # the meaning of 'phy-mode'. It does however mean that a 'phy-mode' of
> # 'rgmii' is now invalid, it cannot be supported, since both the PCB
> # and the MAC and PHY adding delays cannot result in a functional
> # link. Thus the MAC should report a fatal error for any modes which
> # cannot be supported. When the MAC implements the delay, it must
> # ensure that the PHY does not also implement the same delay. So it
> # must modify the phy-mode it passes to the PHY, removing the delay it
> # has added. Failure to remove the delay will result in a
> # non-functioning link.
>
>      Andrew
>
> ---
> pw-bot: cr
Hi Andrew,

The delays are provided by the FPGA GMII-to-RGMII converter soft IP,
which is hardcoded in the FPGA bitstream and cannot be disabled or
modified from the driver side.

Using phy-mode = "rgmii" is intentional here — it prevents the PHY from
adding its own internal delays on top, since the FPGA converter already
provides the full required delay. This is consistent with how all other
Agilex5 SoCDK board variants are described, as seen in commit
c5637e5ceb4b ("arm64: dts: socfpga: agilex5: Fix phy-mode to rgmii as HW
provides clock delay") already in Dinh Nguyen's tree, which applies the
same rationale across all Agilex5 boards.

BR,
Nazim Amirul

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-30 13:31 [PATCH 0/3] arm64: dts/net: stmmac: Add Agilex5 SoCDK TSN Config2 board support muhammad.nazim.amirul.nazle.asmade
2026-06-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: arm: altera: Add Agilex5 SoCDK TSN Config2 board board muhammad.nazim.amirul.nazle.asmade
2026-06-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm64: dts: socfpga: agilex5: Add SoCDK TSN Config2 board muhammad.nazim.amirul.nazle.asmade
2026-06-30 13:58   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-30 14:39     ` Nazle Asmade, Muhammad Nazim Amirul
2026-06-30 15:25       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-01  1:54         ` Nazle Asmade, Muhammad Nazim Amirul [this message]
2026-07-01 12:47           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: stmmac: dwmac-socfpga: Add mac-mode DT property support muhammad.nazim.amirul.nazle.asmade
2026-06-30 14:02   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-30 14:04     ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-06-30 15:13       ` Nazle Asmade, Muhammad Nazim Amirul
2026-06-30 15:42         ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-07-01  1:32           ` Nazle Asmade, Muhammad Nazim Amirul
2026-07-01  6:49   ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-07-01 14:43   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-30 13:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] arm64: dts/net: stmmac: Add Agilex5 SoCDK TSN Config2 board support Maxime Chevallier
2026-07-01  2:09   ` Nazle Asmade, Muhammad Nazim Amirul

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