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From: s.nawrocki@samsung.com (Sylwester Nawrocki)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v1 1/6] DT bindings: add bindings for ov965x camera module
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:50:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bcc7ec0-4ae5-3703-3cee-ed644eef710a@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6F68CD33-70E6-47C1-9E89-5E2AA776879F@goldelico.com>

On 06/28/2017 11:12 AM, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> Am 28.06.2017 um 00:57 schrieb Sylwester Nawrocki <snawrocki@kernel.org>:
>> On 06/27/2017 07:48 AM, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>>>> Am 26.06.2017 um 22:04 schrieb Sylwester Nawrocki <snawrocki@kernel.org>:
>>>> On 06/26/2017 12:35 PM, Hugues FRUCHET wrote:
>>>>>> What I am missing to support the GTA04 camera is the control of the optional "vana-supply".
>>>>>> So the driver does not power up the camera module when needed and therefore probing fails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     - vana-supply: a regulator to power up the camera module.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Driver code is not complex to add:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I saw it in your code, but as I don't have any programmable power
>>>>> supply on my setup, I have not pushed this commit.
>>>>
>>>> Since you are about to add voltage supplies to the DT binding I'd suggest
>>>> to include all three voltage supplies of the sensor chip. Looking at the OV9650
>>>> and the OV9655 datasheet there are following names used for the voltage supply
>>>> pins:
>>>>
>>>> AVDD - Analog power supply,
>>>> DVDD - Power supply for digital core logic,
>>>> DOVDD - Digital power supply for I/O.
>>>
>>> The latter two are usually not independently switchable from the SoC power
>>> the module is connected to.
>>>
>>> And sometimes DVDD and DOVDD are connected together.
>>>
>>> So the driver can't make much use of knowing or requesting them because the
>>> 1.8V supply is always active, even during suspend.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I doubt the sensor can work without any of these voltage supplies, thus
>>>> regulator_get_optional() should not be used. I would just use the regulator
>>>> bulk API to handle all three power supplies.
>>>
>>> The digital part works with AVDD turned off. So the LDO supplying AVDD should
>>> be switchable to save power (&vaux3 on the GTA04 device).>
>>> But not all designs can switch it off. Hence the idea to define it as an
>>> /optional/ regulator. If it is not defined by DT, the driver simply assumes
>>> it is always powered on.
>>
>> I didn't say we can't define regulator supply properties as optional in the DT
>> binding.  If we define them as such and any of these *-supply properties is
>> missing in DT with regulator_get() the regulator core will use dummy regulator
>> for that particular voltage supply.  While with regulator_get_optional()
>> -ENODEV is returned when the regulator cannot be found.
> 
> Ah, ok. I see.
> 
> I had thought that it is the right thing to do like devm_gpiod_get_optional().
> 
> That one it is described as:
> 
> "* This is equivalent to gpiod_get(), except that when no GPIO was assigned to
>   * the requested function it will return NULL. This is convenient for drivers
>   * that need to handle optional GPIOs."
> 
> Seems to be inconsistent definition of what "optional" means.

Indeed, this commit explains it further:

commit de1dd9fd2156874b45803299b3b27e65d5defdd9
regulator: core: Provide hints to the core about optional supplies

> So we indeed should use devm_regulator_get() in this case. Thanks for > pointing out!

>>> So in summary we only need AVDD switched for the GTA04 - but it does not
>>> matter if the others are optional properties. We would not use them.
>>>
>>> It does matter if they are mandatory because it adds DT complexity (size
>>> and processing) without added function.
>>
>> We should not be defining DT binding only with selected use cases/board
>> designs in mind.  IMO all three voltage supplies should be listed in the
>> binding, presumably all can be made optional, with an assumption that when
>> the property is missing selected pin is hooked up to a fixed regulator.
> 
> Ok, then it should just be defined in the bindings but not used by 
> the driver?

Yes, I think so. So we have a possibly complete binding right from the 
beginning. I someone needs handling other supplies than AVDD they could
update the driver in future.


Regards,
Sylwester

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-28 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-22 15:05 [PATCH v1 0/6] Add support of OV9655 camera Hugues Fruchet
2017-06-22 15:05 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] DT bindings: add bindings for ov965x camera module Hugues Fruchet
2017-06-23 10:25   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-23 10:46     ` Andreas Färber
2017-06-23 10:59       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-23 11:58         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-06-23 14:53           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-23 14:57             ` Andreas Färber
2017-06-23 15:22               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-23 18:05                 ` Suman Anna
2017-06-23 18:59                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-23 22:24                     ` Suman Anna
2017-06-26  6:00                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-26 10:35     ` Hugues FRUCHET
2017-06-26 20:04       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2017-06-27  5:48         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-27 22:57           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2017-06-28  9:12             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-28 10:50               ` Sylwester Nawrocki [this message]
2017-06-28 11:24                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-28 12:28                   ` Hugues FRUCHET
2017-06-26 18:56     ` Rob Herring
2017-06-26 18:54   ` Rob Herring
2017-06-22 15:05 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] [media] ov9650: add device tree support Hugues Fruchet
2017-06-26 16:31   ` Sakari Ailus
2017-06-26 17:46     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-27  5:36       ` Sakari Ailus
2017-06-27 10:14         ` Hugues FRUCHET
2017-06-22 15:05 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] [media] ov9650: select the nearest higher resolution Hugues Fruchet
2017-06-22 15:05 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] [media] ov9650: use write_array() for resolution sequences Hugues Fruchet
2017-06-26 16:33   ` Sakari Ailus
2017-06-29 13:59     ` Hugues FRUCHET
2017-06-22 15:05 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] [media] ov9650: add multiple variant support Hugues Fruchet
2017-06-25 12:36   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-22 15:05 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] [media] ov9650: add support of OV9655 variant Hugues Fruchet
2017-06-25 16:07   ` [PATCH] ov9650: fix semicolon.cocci warnings kbuild test robot
2017-06-25 16:07   ` [PATCH v1 6/6] [media] ov9650: add support of OV9655 variant kbuild test robot
2017-06-26  6:03   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-26 11:49     ` Hugues FRUCHET
2017-06-22 15:41 ` [PATCH v1 0/6] Add support of OV9655 camera H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-23 10:25   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-25  9:18     ` omap3isp camera was " Pavel Machek
2017-06-26  6:05       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-26  8:39         ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-26  9:53           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-26 11:16             ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-27  5:49               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-26 13:19           ` Hugues FRUCHET
2017-06-26 16:28             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-27  7:57               ` Hugues FRUCHET
2017-06-26  6:02     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-06-26 10:05   ` Hugues FRUCHET

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