Re: `u64` by `u64` div/mod in DRM QR for arm32

[Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>]

 	Hi Russell,

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 09:21:42PM +0200, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>> Hi Miguel,
>>
>> On 14.04.25 8:14 PM, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
>>> Hi Jocelyn, Christian,
>>>
>>> I started build-testing arm 32-bit within my other usual routine
>>> tests, and I hit:
>>>
>>>     ld.lld: error: undefined symbol: __aeabi_uldivmod
>>>    >>> referenced by drm_panic_qr.rs:417 (drivers/gpu/drm/drm_panic_qr.rs:417)
>>>    >>> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_panic_qr.o:(<drm_panic_qr::SegmentIterator
>>> as core::iter::traits::iterator::Iterator>::next) in archive vmlinux.a
>>>
>>> which comes from both these `u64` by `u64`:
>>>
>>>     let out = (self.carry / pow) as u16;
>>>     self.carry = self.carry % pow;
>>>
>>> Christian: I guess we can offer a set of `div64` functions using the C
>>> ones, at least for the time being, and eventually wire the actual
>>> operator with some support from upstream Rust. Or do you have
>>> something else in mind? (i.e. I think you have been discussing
>>> intrinsics lately)
>>
>> I think using the C implementations is fine. Not sure how much the
>> FFI is going to matter for performance, but it should be rare enough
>> that is shouldn't matter (and hopefully we will get cross lang LTO
>> or something similar at some point).
>>
>> We could also just implement the intrinsic(s) ourselves, but then
>> the u64 divisions would be implicit which is probably undesired.
>> We could also rename the intrinsics so they are only usable from
>> specific crates.
>>
>> I think we need the opinion of the some arm people here.
>>
>> CC Russell King and Linus Walleij.
>
> The kernel has had the general position that u64 by u64 division is
> silly and isn't supported. Several 32-bit architectures including

s/isn't supported/isn't supported implicitly/

> 32-bit ARM don't support it.

It is supported when called explicitly through div64_u64()
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.14.5/source/include/linux/math64.h#L60
But you better think twice before using it, especially in
performance-critical code.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

 						Geert

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