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From: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>
To: Zeng Heng <zengheng4@huawei.com>,
	james.morse@arm.com,
	Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
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	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 26/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add support for 'MB' resource
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2026 13:54:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61684bd8-8156-4fe1-8033-eaa12c6d3437@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6f865bc-319c-8944-9989-4fd83a59d4b8@huawei.com>

Hi Zeng,

On 2/13/26 07:38, Zeng Heng wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> 
> On 2026/2/6 0:50, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 21:43:27 +0000
>> Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
>>>
>>> resctrl supports 'MB', as a percentage throttling of traffic from the
>>> L3. This is the control that mba_sc uses, so ideally the class chosen
>>> should be as close as possible to the counters used for mbm_total. If
>>> there is a single L3 and the topology of the memory matches then the
>>> traffic at the memory controller will be equivalent to that at egress of
>>> the L3. If these conditions are met allow the memory class to back MB.
>>>
>>> MB's percentage control should be backed either with the fixed point
>>> fraction MBW_MAX or bandwidth portion bitmaps. The bandwidth portion
>>> bitmaps is not used as its tricky to pick which bits to use to avoid
>>> contention, and may be possible to expose this as something other than a
>>> percentage in the future.
>>
>> I'm very curious to know whether this heuristic is actually useful on
>> many
>> systems or whether many / most of them fail this 'shape' heuristic.
>>
> 
> The current MPAM driver has restrictions that limit MB control support.
> For example, on some systems, the MPAM memory class MSCs are not located
> at the L3 cache but rather at the memory controller (e.g., Mata). In
> such cases, MB control and mbm_total bandwidth monitoring cannot be
> enabled.
> > I'm unsure whether the community would welcome and be willing to review
> a patch series supporting such systems. Of course, the changes would
> involve minor refactoring in the resctrl common layer.

Having MSC at the memory controllers is quite common and it would be
good for the mpam driver and resctrl to support this. My current
priority is the initial MPAM support and look at this and other extra
features later but I'd be happy to help progress support in this area
through review and discussion. There is some discussion about adding new
schema at [1] and we should make sure  this is consistent with monitors
too. James has some out of tree patches from before that disccussion at [2].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/aPtfMFfLV1l%2FRB0L@e133380.arm.com/
[2] git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/morse/linux.git
 mpam/snapshot+extras/v6.18-rc1

> 
> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Zeng Heng

Thanks,

Ben



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-16 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03 21:43 [PATCH v4 00/41] arm_mpam: Add KVM/arm64 and resctrl glue code Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 01/41] arm64/sysreg: Add MPAMSM_EL1 register Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 02/41] KVM: arm64: Preserve host MPAM configuration when changing traps Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 03/41] KVM: arm64: Make MPAMSM_EL1 accesses UNDEF Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 04/41] arm64: mpam: Context switch the MPAM registers Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:16   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 05/41] arm64: mpam: Re-initialise MPAM regs when CPU comes online Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:20   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 06/41] arm64: mpam: Drop the CONFIG_EXPERT restriction Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 14:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-05 16:21   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 07/41] arm64: mpam: Advertise the CPUs MPAM limits to the driver Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 08/41] arm64: mpam: Add cpu_pm notifier to restore MPAM sysregs Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:54   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 09/41] arm64: mpam: Initialise and context switch the MPAMSM_EL1 register Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:55   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 10/41] arm64: mpam: Add helpers to change a task or cpu's MPAM PARTID/PMG values Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:56   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 11/41] KVM: arm64: Force guest EL1 to use user-space's partid configuration Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 12/41] KVM: arm64: Use kernel-space partid configuration for hypercalls Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 13/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add boilerplate cpuhp and domain allocation Ben Horgan
2026-02-10 22:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 15:36     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 14/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Sort the order of the domain lists Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 15/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Pick the caches we will use as resctrl resources Ben Horgan
2026-02-10 23:39   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-11 11:05     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-12 16:22       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 16/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_reset_all_ctrls() Ben Horgan
2026-02-13  3:32   ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 17/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add resctrl_arch_get_config() Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 18/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Implement helpers to update configuration Ben Horgan
2026-02-14 10:39   ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-16 14:23     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-25  6:39       ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 19/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add plumbing against arm64 task and cpu hooks Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 20/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add CDP emulation Ben Horgan
2026-02-09  1:16   ` Fenghua Yu
2026-02-09 15:36     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-11 10:50       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 21/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Convert to/from MPAMs fixed-point formats Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 22/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add kunit test for control format conversions Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 23/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add rmid index helpers Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 24/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add kunit test for rmid idx conversions Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 25/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Wait for cacheinfo to be ready Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 26/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add support for 'MB' resource Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-13  7:38     ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-16 13:54       ` Ben Horgan [this message]
2026-02-18 16:22         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-18 17:17           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-02-25  8:08           ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-18 16:40     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-10  6:20   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-02-18 16:42     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 27/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add support for csu counters Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:55   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 28/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Pick classes for use as mbm counters Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 29/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Pre-allocate free running monitors Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 30/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Allow resctrl to allocate monitors Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 31/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add resctrl_arch_rmid_read() and resctrl_arch_reset_rmid() Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 32/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Update the rmid reallocation limit Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 33/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Add empty definitions for assorted resctrl functions Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 34/41] arm64: mpam: Select ARCH_HAS_CPU_RESCTRL Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 35/41] arm_mpam: resctrl: Call resctrl_init() on platforms that can support resctrl Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 36/41] arm_mpam: Add quirk framework Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 37/41] arm_mpam: Add workaround for T241-MPAM-1 Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 38/41] arm_mpam: Add workaround for T241-MPAM-4 Ben Horgan
2026-02-13  7:02   ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-02-14  1:29     ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-20  2:30       ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 39/41] arm_mpam: Add workaround for T241-MPAM-6 Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 40/41] arm_mpam: Quirk CMN-650's CSU NRDY behaviour Ben Horgan
2026-02-03 21:43 ` [PATCH v4 41/41] arm64: mpam: Add initial MPAM documentation Ben Horgan
2026-02-05 16:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-05 17:05   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-18 17:02     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-09  8:25 ` [PATCH v4 00/41] arm_mpam: Add KVM/arm64 and resctrl glue code Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-02-09 10:04   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-12 14:51     ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-13  7:18       ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-02-14  9:40 ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-16 12:22   ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-24 11:03     ` Zeng Heng
2026-02-24 14:19       ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-24 15:27         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-24 17:53         ` Ben Horgan
2026-02-26  7:17           ` Zeng Heng

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