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From: Bill Tsui <b10902118@ntu.edu.tw>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com, nathan@kernel.org,
	nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com, morbo@google.com,
	justinstitt@google.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] arm64: ptrace: fix hw_break_set() to set addr and ctrl together
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2025 11:44:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <617369509d2fa1948b8851e070dd441e@ntu.edu.tw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRdVZmeOHYbm24NJ@willie-the-truck>

On 2025-11-15 00:14, Will Deacon wrote:
> ... but you only implement this for the native (64-bit) case, so I 
> don't
> understand how it helps with the problem above.

Yes it is only for 64-bit tracer to debug 32-bit processes because
64-bit tracer always use 64-bit ptrace API (PTRACE_SETREGSET) regardless
of tracee, so only 64-bit code were changed.

>> @@ -524,9 +506,6 @@ static int hw_break_set(struct task_struct 
>> *target,
>>  			return -EINVAL;
>>  		ret = user_regset_copyin(&pos, &count, &kbuf, &ubuf, &addr,
>>  					 offset, offset + PTRACE_HBP_ADDR_SZ);
>> -		if (ret)
>> -			return ret;
>> -		ret = ptrace_hbp_set_addr(note_type, target, idx, addr);
>>  		if (ret)
>>  			return ret;
>>  		offset += PTRACE_HBP_ADDR_SZ;
>> @@ -537,10 +516,11 @@ static int hw_break_set(struct task_struct 
>> *target,
>>  					 offset, offset + PTRACE_HBP_CTRL_SZ);
>>  		if (ret)
>>  			return ret;
>> -		ret = ptrace_hbp_set_ctrl(note_type, target, idx, ctrl);
>> +		offset += PTRACE_HBP_CTRL_SZ;
>> +
>> +		ret = ptrace_hbp_set(note_type, target, idx, addr, ctrl);
> 
> Doesn't this break the case where userspace tries only to set the 
> address?
> The loop will break out when !count without updating anything.
> 

The case doesn't exist for normal use. I saw that as a validation
rather than an intended stop point. If in doubt, I can remove it.

The signature from man ptrace(2)
	ptrace(PTRACE_SETREGSET, pid, NT_foo, &iov)
requires all registers' values to be specified in iov in order. And the
unit of debug registers is the inline structure in user_hwdebug_state:
	struct {
		__u64	addr;
		__u32	ctrl;
		__u32	pad;
	}		dbg_regs[16];
and userspace uses by:
	struct user_hwdebug_state dreg_state;
	ioVec.iov_base = &dreg_state;
	ioVec.iov_len = sizeof(dreg_state.dbg_info) + sizeof(dreg_state.pad) 
+				(sizeof(dreg_state.dbg_regs[0]) * m_max_hwp_supported);

	for (uint32_t i = 0; i < m_max_hwp_supported; i++) {
		dreg_state.dbg_regs[i].addr = m_hwp_regs[i].address;
		dreg_state.dbg_regs[i].ctrl = m_hwp_regs[i].control;
	}
The only case of setting only address is to have iov length only reach
the first register's .addr, but I don't think that memory layout should
be relied on.

> As I mentioned before, I'd prefer to leave this code as-is short of
> removing the indirection through perf entirely.

I am working on that, the side effects are hard to trace, and I think
this patch can make removing perf easier by reducing calls to it and
make clearer what hardware API ptrace needs. This recurs to me and I
think it can be a separated patch.

Here is my progress on removing perf:
I tried to directly set by hw_breakpoint_control, which perf finally
use, but we also relied on perf event handling cpu interrupts when
breakpoints get triggered. This is the hardest part and I am learning
how the kernel handles it across so many others. I feel that the use
of perf has its reasons but definitely there is space to improve.

Anyway, I respect maintainer's decision. I just felt that you thought
this is complicated so I simplifed it. Now I explains the correctness
and how it relates to your final goal. If there are still concerns,
please directly reject me, then I can also stop holding on it.

Thanks,
Bill


      reply	other threads:[~2025-11-15  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-24 12:43 [PATCH 0/3] ARM/arm64: ptrace: fix unaligned hardware breakpoint validation for 32bit b10902118
2025-08-24 12:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] arm64: ptrace: fix hw_break_set() by setting addr and ctrl together b10902118
2025-08-24 12:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm64: ptrace: minimize default bp_len for hw breakpoints to pass check b10902118
2025-08-24 12:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: " b10902118
2025-08-26 19:37 ` [PATCH 0/3] ARM/arm64: ptrace: fix unaligned hardware breakpoint validation for 32bit Catalin Marinas
2025-08-27  1:41 ` [PATCH v2 " Bill Tsui
2025-08-27  1:41   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: ptrace: fix hw_break_set() by setting addr and ctrl together Bill Tsui
2025-09-08 15:14     ` Will Deacon
2025-09-09  1:50       ` b10902118
2025-09-09  1:57       ` Bill Tsui
2025-09-17 14:23         ` Bill Tsui
2025-08-27  1:41   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: ptrace: minimize default bp_len for hw breakpoints to pass check Bill Tsui
2025-08-27  1:41   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ARM: " Bill Tsui
2025-10-16 15:44   ` [PATCH v3 0/1] arm64: ptrace: fix hw_break_set() to set addr and ctrl together Bill Tsui
2025-10-16 15:44     ` [PATCH v3 1/1] " Bill Tsui
2025-10-18  8:24       ` kernel test robot
2025-10-18 13:37     ` [PATCH v4 0/1] " Bill Tsui
2025-10-18 13:37       ` [PATCH v4 1/1] " Bill Tsui
2025-11-14 16:14         ` Will Deacon
2025-11-15  3:44           ` Bill Tsui [this message]

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