From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, joro@8bytes.org,
bhelgaas@google.com, rafael@kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org,
praan@google.com, kees@kernel.org, smostafa@google.com,
Alexander.Grest@microsoft.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
miko.lenczewski@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
vsethi@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Recover ATC invalidate timeouts
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2026 11:22:52 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6416b7fe-0190-4c7b-9a62-5da7d5eea794@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260305153911.GT972761@nvidia.com>
On 3/5/26 23:39, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 09:21:42PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
>> + /*
>> + * ATC timeout indicates the device has stopped responding to coherence
>> + * protocol requests. The only safe recovery is a reset to flush stale
>> + * cached translations. Note that pci_reset_function() internally calls
>> + * pci_dev_reset_iommu_prepare/done() as well and ensures to block ATS
>> + * if PCI-level reset fails.
>> + */
>> + if (!pci_reset_function(pdev)) {
>> + /*
>> + * If reset succeeds, set BME back. Otherwise, fence the system
>> + * from a faulty device, in which case user will have to replug
>> + * the device to invoke pci_set_master().
>> + */
>> + pci_dev_lock(pdev);
>> + pci_set_master(pdev);
>> + pci_dev_unlock(pdev);
>> + }
> I thought we talked about this, the iommu driver cannot just blindly
> issue a reset like this, the reset has to come from the actual device
> driver through the AERish mechanism. Otherwise the driver RAS is going
> to explode.
>
> The smmu driver should immediately block the STE (reject translated
> requests) to protect the system before resuming whatever command
> submissio n has encountered the error.
>
> You could delegate the STE change to the interrupted command
> submission to avoid doing it from a ISR, that makes alot of sense
> because the submission thread is already operating a cmdq so it could
> stick in a STE invalidation command, possibly even in place of the
> failed ATC command.
>
> I think I'd break this up into smaller steps, just focus on this STE
> mechanism at start and have any future attach callback fix the STE.
>
> Then we can talk about how to properly trigger the PCI RAS flow and so
> on.
I believe this issue is not unique to the arm-smmu-v3 driver. Device ATC
invalidation timeout is a generic challenge across all IOMMU
architectures that support PCI ATS. Would it be feasible to implement a
common 'fencing and recovery' mechanism in the IOMMU core so that all
IOMMU drivers could benefit?
Thanks,
baolu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-06 3:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-05 5:21 [PATCH v1 0/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Reset PCI device upon ATC invalidate timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 5:21 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] iommu: Do not call pci_dev_reset_iommu_done() unless reset succeeds Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 5:21 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Recover ATC invalidate timeouts Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 15:15 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-05 15:24 ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-05 21:06 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 15:24 ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-06 15:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 19:34 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-05 15:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05 21:15 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 1:29 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 1:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 5:06 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 13:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:20 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 19:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:39 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 19:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 19:40 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-10 19:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-10 20:04 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-06 13:22 ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-06 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 20:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:34 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 3:22 ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2026-03-06 13:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:35 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 19:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:59 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 20:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:22 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 20:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 20:00 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-11 12:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 2:35 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-10 19:16 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-10 19:51 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-10 20:00 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
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