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From: "Abdul Rahim, Faizal" <faizal.abdul.rahim@linux.intel.com>
To: Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	Przemek Kitszel <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH iwl-next v4 0/9] igc: Add support for Frame Preemption feature in IGC
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:43:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <641ab972-e110-4af2-ad9b-6688cee56562@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874j0wrjk2.fsf@kurt.kurt.home>



On 14/2/2025 4:56 pm, Kurt Kanzenbach wrote:
> On Fri Feb 14 2025, Abdul Rahim, Faizal wrote:
>> On 14/2/2025 3:12 am, Kurt Kanzenbach wrote:
>>> On Thu Feb 13 2025, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>>>> So, confusingly to me, it seems like one operating mode is fundamentally
>>>> different from the other, and something will have to change if both will
>>>> be made to behave the same. What will change? You say mqprio will behave
>>>> like taprio, but I think if anything, mqprio is the one which does the
>>>> right thing, in igc_tsn_tx_arb(), and taprio seems to use the default Tx
>>>> arbitration scheme?
>>>
>>> Correct. taprio is using the default scheme. mqprio configures it to
>>> what ever the user provided (in igc_tsn_tx_arb()).
>>>
>>>> I don't think I'm on the same page as you guys, because to me, it is
>>>> just odd that the P traffic classes would be the first ones with
>>>> mqprio, but the last ones with taprio.
>>>
>>> I think we are on the same page here. At the end both have to behave the
>>> same. Either by using igc_tsn_tx_arb() for taprio too or only using the
>>> default scheme for both (and thereby keeping broken_mqprio). Whatever
>>> Faizal implements I'll match the behavior with mqprio.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Kurt & Vladimir,
>>
>> After reading Vladimir's reply on tc, hw queue, and socket priority mapping
>> for both taprio and mqprio, I agree they should follow the same priority
>> scheme for consistency—both in code and command usage (i.e., taprio,
>> mqprio, and fpe in both configurations). Since igc_tsn_tx_arb() ensures a
>> standard mapping of tc, socket priority, and hardware queue priority, I'll
>> enable taprio to use igc_tsn_tx_arb() in a separate patch submission.
> 
> There's one point to consider here: igc_tsn_tx_arb() changes the mapping
> between priorities and Tx queues. I have no idea how many people rely on
> the fact that queue 0 has always the highest priority. For example, it
> will change the Tx behavior for schedules which open multiple traffic
> classes at the same time. Users may notice.

Yeah, I was considering the impact on existing users too. I hadn’t given it 
much thought initially and figured they’d just need to adapt to the 
changes, but now that I think about it, properly communicating this would 
be tough. taprio on igc (i225, i226) has been around for a while, so a lot 
of users would be affected.

> OTOH changing mqprio to the broken_mqprio model is easy, because AFAIK
> there's only one customer using this.
> 

Hmmmm, now I’m leaning toward keeping taprio as is (hw queue 0 highest 
priority) and having mqprio follow the default priority scheme (aka 
broken_mqprio). Even though it’s not the norm, the impact doesn’t seem 
worth the gain. Open to hearing others' thoughts.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-14  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-10  7:01 [PATCH iwl-next v4 0/9] igc: Add support for Frame Preemption feature in IGC Faizal Rahim
2025-02-10  7:01 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 1/9] net: ethtool: mm: extract stmmac verification logic into common library Faizal Rahim
2025-02-12 23:09   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 2/9] igc: Rename xdp_get_tx_ring() for non-xdp usage Faizal Rahim
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 3/9] igc: Optimize the TX packet buffer utilization Faizal Rahim
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 4/9] igc: Set the RX packet buffer size for TSN mode Faizal Rahim
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 5/9] igc: Add support for frame preemption verification Faizal Rahim
2025-02-17 11:31   ` Simon Horman
2025-02-19  1:48     ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 6/9] igc: Add support to set tx-min-frag-size Faizal Rahim
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 7/9] igc: Add support for preemptible traffic class in taprio Faizal Rahim
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 8/9] igc: Add support to get MAC Merge data via ethtool Faizal Rahim
2025-02-10  7:02 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 9/9] igc: Add support to get frame preemption statistics " Faizal Rahim
2025-02-12 21:54   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-13  5:42     ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-12 22:01 ` [PATCH iwl-next v4 0/9] igc: Add support for Frame Preemption feature in IGC Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-13  6:12   ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-13  9:00     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-13 11:06       ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-13 12:01     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2025-02-13 12:54       ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-13 13:00         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-13 13:54           ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-13 14:12             ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2025-02-13 18:46               ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-13 19:12                 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2025-02-14  4:20                   ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-14  4:50                     ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-14  8:56                     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2025-02-14  9:43                       ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal [this message]
2025-02-14 10:22                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-14 11:20                           ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal
2025-02-14 11:38                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-02-13  8:59   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Loktionov, Aleksandr
2025-02-20  3:08     ` Abdul Rahim, Faizal

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