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From: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"Koenig, Christian" <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	amd-gfx list <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, "Huang, Ray" <Ray.Huang@amd.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Zhang, Jerry" <Jerry.Zhang@amd.com>,
	Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] drm: disable WC optimization for cache coherent devices on non-x86
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 17:04:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66a7aa82-3ebd-55c3-0263-ee9694294896@daenzer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu_D4FC05Rz3Oxm_dTWLaGt+a3EDecbsrge1eHY7gFXEYg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2019-01-24 12:45 p.m., Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:37, Koenig, Christian
> <Christian.Koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 24.01.19 um 12:26 schrieb Ard Biesheuvel:
>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:23, Koenig, Christian
>>> <Christian.Koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>>>> Am 24.01.19 um 10:59 schrieb Ard Biesheuvel:
>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>> This is *exactly* my point the whole time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current code has
>>>>>
>>>>> static inline bool drm_arch_can_wc_memory(void)
>>>>> {
>>>>> #if defined(CONFIG_PPC) && !defined(CONFIG_NOT_COHERENT_CACHE)
>>>>>      return false;
>>>>>
>>>>> which means the optimization is disabled *unless the system is
>>>>> non-cache coherent*
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you have reports that the optimization works on some PowerPC, it
>>>>> must be non-cache coherent PowerPC, because that is the only place
>>>>> where it is enabled in the first place.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only problematic here actually seems to be ARM, so you should
>>>>>> probably just add an "#ifdef .._ARM return false;".
>>>>>>
>>>>> ARM/arm64 does not have a Kconfig symbol like
>>>>> CONFIG_NOT_COHERENT_CACHE, so we can only disable it everywhere. If
>>>>> there are non-coherent ARM systems that are currently working in the
>>>>> same way as those non-coherent PowerPC systems, we will break them by
>>>>> doing this.
>>>> Summing the things I've read so far for ARM up I actually think it
>>>> depends on a runtime configuration and not on compile time one.
>>>>
>>>> So the whole idea of providing the device to the drm_*_can_wc_memory()
>>>> function isn't so far fetched.
>>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>> But for now I do prefer working and slightly slower system over broken
>>>> one, so I think we should just disable this on ARM for now.
>>>>
>>> Again, this is not about non-cache coherent being slower without the
>>> optimization, it is about non-cache coherent likely not working *at
>>> all* unless the optimization is enabled.
>>
>> As Michel tried to explain this CAN'T happen. The optimization is a
>> purely optional request from userspace.
>>
> 
> Right.
> 
> So in that case, we can assume that the following test
> 
> static inline bool drm_arch_can_wc_memory(void)
> {
> #if defined(CONFIG_PPC) && !defined(CONFIG_NOT_COHERENT_CACHE)
>     return false;
> 
> is bogus, and it was just unnecessary caution on the part of the
> author to disregard non-cache coherent devices.

This is driver-independent core code, meaning "non-snooped PCIe
transfers don't work on cache coherent PPC". It doesn't imply anything
about whether or not amdgpu or any other driver works on
non-cache-coherent PPC in general.


-- 
Earthling Michel Dänzer               |               http://www.amd.com
Libre software enthusiast             |             Mesa and X developer

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-24 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21 10:06 [RFC PATCH] drm: disable WC optimization for cache coherent devices on non-x86 Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 10:11 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-21 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 15:33   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 15:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:14       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 16:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:30           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 16:35             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:50               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 17:55             ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 17:59               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 18:04                 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 18:20                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 18:23                     ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 18:28                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 19:04                         ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 19:18                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-22  8:38                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-22 20:56                             ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-22 21:07                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-23  7:15                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-23  9:08                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-23 16:44                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-23 16:52                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24  9:13                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-24  9:25                                           ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24  9:28                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24  9:45                                               ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24  9:59                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 11:23                                                   ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 11:26                                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 11:37                                                       ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 11:45                                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 13:54                                                           ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-24 13:57                                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 14:00                                                               ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-24 16:04                                                           ` Michel Dänzer [this message]
2019-01-24  9:31                                         ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-24  9:37                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel

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