From: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
"Koenig, Christian" <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
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dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Zhang, Jerry" <Jerry.Zhang@amd.com>,
Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] drm: disable WC optimization for cache coherent devices on non-x86
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 17:04:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <66a7aa82-3ebd-55c3-0263-ee9694294896@daenzer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu_D4FC05Rz3Oxm_dTWLaGt+a3EDecbsrge1eHY7gFXEYg@mail.gmail.com>
On 2019-01-24 12:45 p.m., Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:37, Koenig, Christian
> <Christian.Koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 24.01.19 um 12:26 schrieb Ard Biesheuvel:
>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:23, Koenig, Christian
>>> <Christian.Koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>>>> Am 24.01.19 um 10:59 schrieb Ard Biesheuvel:
>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>> This is *exactly* my point the whole time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current code has
>>>>>
>>>>> static inline bool drm_arch_can_wc_memory(void)
>>>>> {
>>>>> #if defined(CONFIG_PPC) && !defined(CONFIG_NOT_COHERENT_CACHE)
>>>>> return false;
>>>>>
>>>>> which means the optimization is disabled *unless the system is
>>>>> non-cache coherent*
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you have reports that the optimization works on some PowerPC, it
>>>>> must be non-cache coherent PowerPC, because that is the only place
>>>>> where it is enabled in the first place.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only problematic here actually seems to be ARM, so you should
>>>>>> probably just add an "#ifdef .._ARM return false;".
>>>>>>
>>>>> ARM/arm64 does not have a Kconfig symbol like
>>>>> CONFIG_NOT_COHERENT_CACHE, so we can only disable it everywhere. If
>>>>> there are non-coherent ARM systems that are currently working in the
>>>>> same way as those non-coherent PowerPC systems, we will break them by
>>>>> doing this.
>>>> Summing the things I've read so far for ARM up I actually think it
>>>> depends on a runtime configuration and not on compile time one.
>>>>
>>>> So the whole idea of providing the device to the drm_*_can_wc_memory()
>>>> function isn't so far fetched.
>>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>> But for now I do prefer working and slightly slower system over broken
>>>> one, so I think we should just disable this on ARM for now.
>>>>
>>> Again, this is not about non-cache coherent being slower without the
>>> optimization, it is about non-cache coherent likely not working *at
>>> all* unless the optimization is enabled.
>>
>> As Michel tried to explain this CAN'T happen. The optimization is a
>> purely optional request from userspace.
>>
>
> Right.
>
> So in that case, we can assume that the following test
>
> static inline bool drm_arch_can_wc_memory(void)
> {
> #if defined(CONFIG_PPC) && !defined(CONFIG_NOT_COHERENT_CACHE)
> return false;
>
> is bogus, and it was just unnecessary caution on the part of the
> author to disregard non-cache coherent devices.
This is driver-independent core code, meaning "non-snooped PCIe
transfers don't work on cache coherent PPC". It doesn't imply anything
about whether or not amdgpu or any other driver works on
non-cache-coherent PPC in general.
--
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Libre software enthusiast | Mesa and X developer
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-21 10:06 [RFC PATCH] drm: disable WC optimization for cache coherent devices on non-x86 Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 10:11 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-21 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 15:33 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 15:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:14 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:30 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 16:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-21 16:50 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 17:55 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 17:59 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 18:04 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 18:20 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 18:23 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 18:28 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-21 19:04 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-21 19:18 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-22 8:38 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-22 20:56 ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-22 21:07 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-23 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-23 9:08 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-23 16:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-23 16:52 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 9:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-24 9:25 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 9:28 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 9:45 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 9:59 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 11:23 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 11:26 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 11:37 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-24 11:45 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 13:54 ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-24 13:57 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-01-24 14:00 ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-24 16:04 ` Michel Dänzer [this message]
2019-01-24 9:31 ` Michel Dänzer
2019-01-24 9:37 ` Ard Biesheuvel
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