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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Vladimir Oltean" <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-phy@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	"Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	"Horatiu Vultur" <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@kernel.org>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Eric Woudstra" <ericwouds@gmail.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>, "Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>,
	"Patrice Chotard" <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 5/9] phy: add phy_get_rx_polarity() and phy_get_tx_polarity()
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 09:41:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69ac21ea-eed2-449a-b231-c43e3cd0bdc0@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aS1T5i3pCHsNVql6@vaman>

On 01/12/2025 09:37, Vinod Koul wrote:
> On 24-11-25, 20:01, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 21:33:37 +0200 Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>>> Add helpers in the generic PHY folder which can be used using 'select
>>> GENERIC_PHY_COMMON_PROPS' from Kconfig, without otherwise needing to
>>> enable GENERIC_PHY.
>>>
>>> These helpers need to deal with the slight messiness of the fact that
>>> the polarity properties are arrays per protocol, and with the fact that
>>> there is no default value mandated by the standard properties, all
>>> default values depend on driver and protocol (PHY_POL_NORMAL may be a
>>> good default for SGMII, whereas PHY_POL_AUTO may be a good default for
>>> PCIe).
>>>
>>> Push the supported mask of polarities to these helpers, to simplify
>>> drivers such that they don't need to validate what's in the device tree
>>> (or other firmware description).
>>>
>>> The proposed maintainership model is joint custody between netdev and
>>> linux-phy, because of the fact that these properties can be applied to
>>> Ethernet PCS blocks just as well as Generic PHY devices. I've added as
>>> maintainers those from "ETHERNET PHY LIBRARY", "NETWORKING DRIVERS" and
>>> "GENERIC PHY FRAMEWORK".
>>
>> I dunno.. ain't no such thing as "joint custody" maintainership.
>> We have to pick one tree. Given the set of Ms here, I suspect 
>> the best course of action may be to bubble this up to its own tree.
>> Ask Konstantin for a tree in k.org, then you can "co-post" the patches
>> for review + PR link in the cover letter (e.g. how Tony from Intel
>> submits their patches). This way not networking and PHY can pull
>> the shared changes with stable commit IDs.
> 
> How much is the volume of the changes that we are talking about, we can
> always ack and pull into each other trees..?

That's just one C file, isn't it? Having dedicated tree for one file
feels like huge overhead.


Best regards,
Krzysztof


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-22 19:33 [PATCH net-next 0/9] XPCS polarity inversion via generic device tree properties Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] dt-bindings: phy: rename transmit-amplitude.yaml to phy-common-props.yaml Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25 21:19   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-25 21:44     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25 22:33       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-26  7:26         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26  9:32           ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 10:33             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 10:45               ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 10:51                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 13:05                   ` Holger Brunck
2025-11-26 14:09           ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-26 14:25           ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-12-04 16:11   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] dt-bindings: phy-common-props: create a reusable "protocol-names" definition Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 15:52   ` Rob Herring
2025-12-04 16:11     ` Rob Herring
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] dt-bindings: phy-common-props: RX and TX lane polarity inversion Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:13   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] dt-bindings: net: xpcs: allow properties from phy-common-props.yaml Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:13   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] phy: add phy_get_rx_polarity() and phy_get_tx_polarity() Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-25  4:01   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-25 17:02     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-01  8:37     ` Vinod Koul
2025-12-01  8:41       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2025-12-04 15:34         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:48           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-01 19:03       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] net: pcs: xpcs: promote SJA1105 TX polarity inversion to core Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] net: pcs: xpcs: allow lane polarity inversion Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 15:17   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] net: phy: air_en8811h: deprecate "airoha,pnswap-rx" and "airoha,pnswap-tx" Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-22 19:33 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] dt-bindings: net: airoha,en8811h: " Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:13   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-11-25 14:36 ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] XPCS polarity inversion via generic device tree properties Daniel Golle
2025-12-27 16:12 ` Bjørn Mork

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