From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: KVM: Document guest-visible compatibility expectations
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 17:14:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6afc4b95-3c15-4d71-877d-19b84e91ce05@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6856b269d2af706eae397e0cf9c1231f89d9a932.camel@infradead.org>
On 5/11/26 10:57, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
>
> Document the expectation that KVM maintains guest-visible compatibility
> across host kernel upgrades and rollbacks. Specifically:
>
> - State saved/restored via KVM ioctls must be sufficient for live
> migration (and live update) between kernel versions.
>
> - Where a new kernel introduces a guest-visible change, it provides a
> mechanism for userspace to select the previous behaviour.
>
> - This allows both forward migration (upgrade) and backward migration
> (rollback) of guests.
>
> These expectations have been implicitly required on x86 but were not
> explicitly documented. Harmonise the expectations across all of KVM.
One big part of achieving this on x86 is the handling of CPUID. Despite
all the mess that KVM_SET_CPUID2 is (and sometimes the underlying
architecture too, as Jim Mattson would certainly agree), KVM is
generally able to provide a consistent view of its configuration to the
guest. This doesn't quite extend to compatibility across vendors, but
it does work across processor generations from either Intel or AMD.
I understand that Arm traditionally had much more trouble than x86 with
vendor-specified behavior that goes beyond the set of architectural
features, so we may need to tune the expectations. However, I agree
with David that this is needed at least as long as the host CPU does not
change.
Thanks,
Paolo
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> ---
> Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 14 ++++++++++++++
> Documentation/virt/kvm/review-checklist.rst | 20 ++++++++++++++------
> 2 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> index 269970221797..864f3daa7acb 100644
> --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> @@ -97,6 +97,20 @@ Instead, kvm defines extension identifiers and a facility to query
> whether a particular extension identifier is available. If it is, a
> set of ioctls is available for application use.
>
> +KVM will ensure that the state that can be saved and restored via the
> +KVM ioctls is sufficient to allow migration of a running guest between
> +host kernels while maintaining full compatibility of the guest-visible
> +device model. This includes migration to newer kernels (upgrade) and
> +to older kernels (rollback), provided that the older kernel supports
> +the set of features exposed to the guest. Where a new kernel version
> +introduces a guest-visible change, it will provide a mechanism (such
> +as a capability or a device attribute) that allows userspace to select
> +the previous behaviour. This serves two purposes: guests migrated
> +from an older kernel can continue to run with their original
> +observable environment, and new guests launched on the newer kernel
> +can be configured to match the feature set of the older kernel, so
> +that they remain migratable to the older kernel in case of rollback.
> +
>
> 4. API description
> ==================
> diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/review-checklist.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/review-checklist.rst
> index 053f00c50d66..f0fbe1577a90 100644
> --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/review-checklist.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/review-checklist.rst
> @@ -18,22 +18,30 @@ Review checklist for kvm patches
> 5. New features must default to off (userspace should explicitly request them).
> Performance improvements can and should default to on.
>
> -6. New cpu features should be exposed via KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID2,
> +6. Guest-visible changes must not break migration compatibility. A guest
> + migrated from an older kernel must be able to run with its original
> + observable environment, and a guest launched on a newer kernel must be
> + configurable to match the older kernel's feature set for rollback.
> + Where a change alters guest-visible behaviour, provide a mechanism
> + (capability, device attribute, etc.) for userspace to select the
> + previous behaviour.
> +
> +7. New cpu features should be exposed via KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID2,
> or its equivalent for non-x86 architectures
>
> -7. The feature should be testable (see below).
> +8. The feature should be testable (see below).
>
> -8. Changes should be vendor neutral when possible. Changes to common code
> +9. Changes should be vendor neutral when possible. Changes to common code
> are better than duplicating changes to vendor code.
>
> -9. Similarly, prefer changes to arch independent code than to arch dependent
> +10. Similarly, prefer changes to arch independent code than to arch dependent
> code.
>
> -10. User/kernel interfaces and guest/host interfaces must be 64-bit clean
> +11. User/kernel interfaces and guest/host interfaces must be 64-bit clean
> (all variables and sizes naturally aligned on 64-bit; use specific types
> only - u64 rather than ulong).
>
> -11. New guest visible features must either be documented in a hardware manual
> +12. New guest visible features must either be documented in a hardware manual
> or be accompanied by documentation.
>
> Testing of KVM code
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-11 15:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-11 8:57 [PATCH] Documentation: KVM: Document guest-visible compatibility expectations David Woodhouse
2026-05-11 15:14 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2026-05-11 16:38 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-11 16:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-11 17:53 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 8:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-13 9:24 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 12:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-13 13:03 ` Eric Auger
2026-05-13 13:57 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-13 16:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-13 18:26 ` David Woodhouse
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