From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D52C433F5 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 186336128E for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:44:06 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.kernel.org 186336128E Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:Content-Type: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID: Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date :Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=wADsdwruU6+VW+YiOaQCtKH5Suna1UoHMgX/y9j/FNc=; b=dKUvyPUaD4xPf8n1ZR+uGQljP2 OhaluPPMnp/Z62r1tXkU2l4pzyBOZhhUrnza6Uy2wqqHKNsnwqYdhwf3U5Q4aJLDkW0ZoY8tf4bI9 0/RlRuftsrHcz2M+mOCZx8H0IV3yLONisS1WnfN2Rl6jnh+uFhj+DzGodKm1i1V7lHV4ORHVL79kO d1cTUMH1dP1yLSE6KvToaIbuuX3RWYv+N5IT6dzIHygqCCAFQSauCFMFjc//6EWo5MkI0eY5ooD3g wBesjhqYYlFnn9rz21BMqPak4w7l4zigoD+mEmjeYD5CR7iIJSoqw3gBSoihRR3+zU9ODhvGc7I8S DaH7OB7w==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1mdfpr-009CMX-Uo; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:42:52 +0000 Received: from [2001:8b0:10b:1::3ae] (helo=u3832b3a9db3152.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1mdfpp-009CM3-AD; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:42:49 +0000 Message-ID: <7786271477279d4fbf9292db1f6aede8428eb00d.camel@infradead.org> Subject: Re: injected body trailers From: David Woodhouse To: Konstantin Ryabitsev , Kees Cook Cc: tools@linux.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:42:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20211021204459.xd63t5xn24vktqf3@meerkat.local> References: <202110211313.B5C5C61@keescook> <20211021204459.xd63t5xn24vktqf3@meerkat.local> User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3603119729175043021==" Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org --===============3603119729175043021== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-l+5I+C1clho6Hx2PSgFN" --=-l+5I+C1clho6Hx2PSgFN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 16:44 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 01:22:31PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > > Hi! > >=20 > > So, I just saw a DKIM failure, and it was entirely justified. :) > >=20 > > Grabbing thread from lore.kernel.org/all/20211021142516.1843042-1-ardb%= 40kernel.org/t.mbox.gz > > Checking for newer revisions on=20 > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/ > >=20 > > Analyzing 1 messages in the thread > > Checking attestation on all messages, may take a moment... > > --- > > =E2=9C=93 [PATCH] ARM: stackprotector: prefer compiler for TLS based = per-task protector > > =E2=9C=93 Signed: openpgp/ > > ardb@kernel.org > >=20 >=20 > You will notice that the openpgp signature passed. This is because we: >=20 > 1. record the length of the original message when we're creating the sign= ature > (see l=3D2495 in X-Developer-Signature) > 2. if the initial validation fails and the body is longer than l=3D2495, = we trim > the body to that number of bytes > 3. if the trimmed validation passes, we use that version for the patch bo= dy > content, since that's clearly what the developer intended >=20 All this was known when DKIM was first invented, and the fact that DKIM signatures would break with fairly much all mailing lists was also known, the moment they decided to go ahead with DKIM in its current state without any solution for it. > > =E2=9C=97 BADSIG: DKIM/kernel.org =20 > > =E2=9C=93 Signed: DKIM/lists.infradead.org (From: ardb@kernel.org) Hm. I thought I had configured mailman to *remove* older DKIM signatures (which are going to be broken). The message you receive should *only* have the newly-added signature corresponding to the Sender: of the message. The original one was superseded by the new one and should have been removed. > >=20 > > This is=20 > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211021142516.1843042-1-ardb@kernel.org/ > >=20 > > and for some reason, the linux-arm-kernel mailing list is injecting a > > body trailer. >=20 > "For some reason" is really "that's the default for mailman-2". Mailman-2 > belongs to a wholly different era and *can* be configured to be DKIM > compliant, but rarely is. >=20 That's what mailing lists have always done, because users are stupid and need to be reminded in *every* single message that this is a mailing list and this is how they unsubscribe. Really, even *with* that reminder there are plenty of people who can't work it out. > > I just downloaded this directly and removed the trailer, and the DKIM > > passed. This experience has raise a few questions... > >=20 > > 1) Can (should) b4 grow logic to progressively strip lines off the end > > of a body until DKIM passes? >=20 > Ah, but then the lists.infradead.org DKIM will fail. Theoretically, we sh= ould > always prioritize the signature that is closest aligned with the From: he= ader, > but that's not actually that straightforward, as DNS lookup and validatio= n > rules can get really complex. >=20 Surely the Sender: header should take priority. That one would work. > > 2) Can the linux-arm-kernel mailing list please stop breaking DKIM? > > Who should authorize this change (rmk, Catalin)? And who can make > > the change (peterz)? >=20 I run the host but per-list settings are up to the admin of the individual list. For the lak list, vince@kyllikki.org and=20 mouw@nl.linux.org are listed as admins. I don't know if that corresponds with who actually remembers the list password these days; I can set a new one and provide it if that's helpful. > The relevant settings should be a) don't add any subject prefixes, b) don= 't > add anything to the body trailers, c) don't rewrite any other headers (to= , cc, > reply-to, etc). >=20 > > (I realize now that all the mail from linux-arm-kernel has been > > getting dropped into my Spam folder -- I normally don't notice since > > I'm usually CCed directly or via some other list on things I wanted > > to see.) > >=20 > > 3) Are there other lists for which lore is collecting emails where DKIM > > is persistently broken, and can we fix those lists too? >=20 > I would also note that lists.infradead.org should not really be adding it= s own > DKIM signature to messages it sends out. It doesn't really serve any purp= ose > unless the From: header is rewritten (but please don't do that either). 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