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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Jing Zhang <renyu.zj@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Xing Zhengjun <zhengjun.xing@linux.intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, James Clark <james.clark@arm.com>,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>, Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Kilroy <andrew.kilroy@arm.com>,
	Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Zhuo Song <zhuo.song@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/6] perf vendor events arm64: Add topdown L1 metrics for neoverse-n2
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 17:26:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7aa225df-af25-a6be-9bef-c965488ba43a@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f3d53cb-4160-e29d-3934-d6a488d9fd49@linux.alibaba.com>

On 04/01/2023 05:05, Jing Zhang wrote:
> 
> 
> 在 2023/1/3 下午7:52, John Garry 写道:
>> On 03/01/2023 11:39, Jing Zhang wrote:
>>> The formula of topdown L1 on neoverse-n2 is from ARM sbsa7.0 platform
>>> design document [0], D37-38.
>>
>> I think that I mentioned this before - if the these metrics are coming from an sbsa doc, then they are standard. As such, we can make them "arch std events" and put them in a common json such as sbsa.json, so that other cores may reuse.
>>
>> You don't strictly have to do do this now, but it would be better.
>>
> 
> Hi John,

Hi Jing,

> 
> I would really like to do this, but as discussed earlier, slot is different on each architectures.
> If I do not specify the value of the slot in sbsa.json, then in the json file of n2/v1, I need to
> overwrite each topdown "MetricExpr". In other words, the metrics placed in the sbsa.json file only
> reuse "BriefDescription", "MetricGroup" and "ScaleUnit". So I'm not sure if it's acceptable?

I don't see a lot of value in that really.

However, for this value of slot, isn't this discoverable from a system 
register per core? Quoting the sbsa: "The IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED 
constant SLOTS is discoverable from the system register 
PMMIR_EL1.SLOTS." Did you consider how this could be used?

> 
> In addition, James mentioned that if the units and names and group names of different architectures
> are not unified, it will become complicated.
> 

Thanks,
John



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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-04 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-03 11:39 [PATCH v5 0/6] Add metrics for neoverse-n2 Jing Zhang
2023-01-03 11:39 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] perf vendor events arm64: Add topdown L1 " Jing Zhang
2023-01-03 11:52   ` John Garry
2023-01-04  5:05     ` Jing Zhang
2023-01-04 17:26       ` John Garry [this message]
2023-01-05 10:05         ` Jing Zhang
2023-01-05 10:13           ` John Garry
2023-01-05 11:02             ` Jing Zhang
2023-01-05 21:13             ` Ian Rogers
2023-01-06 10:14               ` John Garry
2023-01-06 10:34                 ` Jing Zhang
2023-01-09 15:34                 ` James Clark
2023-01-11  6:14                   ` Ian Rogers
2023-01-03 11:39 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] perf vendor events arm64: Add TLB " Jing Zhang
2023-01-03 17:14   ` Ian Rogers
2023-01-04  5:21     ` Jing Zhang
2023-01-04  8:40       ` Jing Zhang
2023-01-04 16:57         ` Ian Rogers
2023-01-03 11:39 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] perf vendor events arm64: Add cache " Jing Zhang
2023-01-03 11:39 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] perf vendor events arm64: Add branch " Jing Zhang
2023-01-03 11:39 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] perf vendor events arm64: Add PE utilization " Jing Zhang
2023-01-03 11:39 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] perf vendor events arm64: Add instruction mix " Jing Zhang

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