From: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
To: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
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linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
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Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
Alper Gun <alpergun@google.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 34/45] kvm: rme: Hide KVM_CAP_READONLY_MEM for realm guests
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 16:37:36 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7fa4269b-a20c-4cfc-b6e7-e70214ec6366@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d254a8ea-0f02-4826-9af3-4a288efcc90c@arm.com>
On 4/8/25 2:34 AM, Steven Price wrote:
> On 04/03/2025 11:51, Gavin Shan wrote:
>> On 2/14/25 2:14 AM, Steven Price wrote:
>>> For protected memory read only isn't supported. While it may be possible
>>> to support read only for unprotected memory, this isn't supported at the
>>> present time.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
>>> ---
>>> arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 2 +-
>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>
>> It's worthy to explain why KVM_CAP_READONLY_MEM isn't supported and its
>> negative impact. It's something to be done in the future if I'm correct.
>
> I'll add to the commit message:
>
> Note that this does mean that e.g. ROM (or flash) data cannot be
> emulated correctly by the VMM.
>
Please also to mention this if you agree: At present, there is no exposed
APIs from RMM allowing to specifying stage-2 page-table entry's permission.
read-only regions for ROM and flash have to be backed up by read-write stage-2
page-table entries. It's going to rely on the stage-1 page-table to have the
proper permissions for those read-only regions.
>> From QEMU's perspective, all ROM data, which is populated by it, can
>> be written. It conflicts to the natural limit: all ROM data should be
>> read-only.
>
> Yes this is my understanding of the main impact. I'm not sure how useful
> (shared) ROM/flash emulation is. It can certainly be added in the future
> if needed. Protected read-only memory I don't believe is useful - the
> only sane response I can see from a write fault in that case is killing
> the guest.
>
Yes, VMM is still able to write to those regions even they're read-only
since they're emulated. For misbehaving guest where those regions are also
mapped as read-write, the data resident in those regions can be corrupted
by guest. It's not the expected output.
Since RMM doesn't have exposed APIs allowing to specify page-table entry's
permissions, meaning all entries have read-write permissions, we have to
give read-write permission to those read-only regions for now. In long run,
it's something to be fixed, starting from RMM.
Thanks,
Gavin
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>> QEMU
>> ====
>> rom_add_blob
>> rom_set_mr
>> memory_region_set_readonly
>> memory_region_transaction_commit
>> kvm_region_commit
>> kvm_set_phys_mem
>> kvm_mem_flags // flag
>> KVM_MEM_READONLY is missed
>> kvm_set_user_memory_region
>> kvm_vm_ioctl(KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2)
>>
>> non-secure host
>> ===============
>> rec_exit_sync_dabt
>> kvm_handle_guest_abort
>> user_mem_abort
>> __kvm_faultin_pfn // writable == true
>> realm_map_ipa
>> WARN_ON(!(prot & KVM_PGTABLE_PROT_W)
>>
>> non-secure host
>> ===============
>> kvm_realm_enable_cap(KVM_CAP_ARM_RME_POPULATE_REALM)
>> kvm_populate_realm
>> __kvm_faultin_pfn // writable == true
>> realm_create_protected_data_page
>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
>>> index 1f3674e95f03..0f1d65f87e2b 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
>>> @@ -348,7 +348,6 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm,
>>> long ext)
>>> case KVM_CAP_ONE_REG:
>>> case KVM_CAP_ARM_PSCI:
>>> case KVM_CAP_ARM_PSCI_0_2:
>>> - case KVM_CAP_READONLY_MEM:
>>> case KVM_CAP_MP_STATE:
>>> case KVM_CAP_IMMEDIATE_EXIT:
>>> case KVM_CAP_VCPU_EVENTS:
>>> @@ -362,6 +361,7 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm,
>>> long ext)
>>> case KVM_CAP_COUNTER_OFFSET:
>>> r = 1;
>>> break;
>>> + case KVM_CAP_READONLY_MEM:
>>> case KVM_CAP_SET_GUEST_DEBUG:
>>> r = !kvm_is_realm(kvm);
>>> break;
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gavin
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-08 6:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-13 16:13 [PATCH v7 00/45] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 01/45] KVM: Prepare for handling only shared mappings in mmu_notifier events Steven Price
2025-03-02 23:36 ` Gavin Shan
2025-03-03 15:05 ` Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 02/45] kvm: arm64: Include kvm_emulate.h in kvm/arm_psci.h Steven Price
2025-03-02 23:39 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 03/45] arm64: RME: Handle Granule Protection Faults (GPFs) Steven Price
2025-03-02 23:43 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 04/45] arm64: RME: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Steven Price
2025-03-02 23:52 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 05/45] arm64: RME: Add wrappers for RMI calls Steven Price
2025-03-03 3:42 ` Gavin Shan
2025-03-03 15:05 ` Steven Price
2025-03-05 0:15 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 06/45] arm64: RME: Check for RME support at KVM init Steven Price
2025-03-03 3:58 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 07/45] arm64: RME: Define the user ABI Steven Price
2025-02-14 13:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-03-03 4:10 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 08/45] arm64: RME: ioctls to create and configure realms Steven Price
2025-03-03 4:42 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 09/45] kvm: arm64: Expose debug HW register numbers for Realm Steven Price
2025-03-03 4:48 ` Gavin Shan
2025-03-05 16:25 ` Steven Price
2025-03-05 23:31 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 10/45] arm64: kvm: Allow passing machine type in KVM creation Steven Price
2025-03-03 4:53 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 11/45] arm64: RME: RTT tear down Steven Price
2025-03-03 6:25 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 12/45] arm64: RME: Allocate/free RECs to match vCPUs Steven Price
2025-03-03 7:08 ` Gavin Shan
2025-03-07 15:43 ` Steven Price
2025-04-08 4:55 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-07 15:06 ` Wei-Lin Chang
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 13/45] KVM: arm64: vgic: Provide helper for number of list registers Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 14/45] arm64: RME: Support for the VGIC in realms Steven Price
2025-03-03 18:02 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 15/45] KVM: arm64: Support timers in realm RECs Steven Price
2025-03-04 17:59 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 16/45] arm64: RME: Allow VMM to set RIPAS Steven Price
2025-03-04 0:45 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 17/45] arm64: RME: Handle realm enter/exit Steven Price
2025-03-04 1:03 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-07 16:34 ` Steven Price
2025-04-08 5:03 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 18/45] arm64: RME: Handle RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE Steven Price
2025-03-04 4:35 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-07 16:34 ` Steven Price
2025-04-09 0:13 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v7 19/45] KVM: arm64: Handle realm MMIO emulation Steven Price
2025-03-04 4:52 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 20/45] arm64: RME: Allow populating initial contents Steven Price
2025-03-04 5:09 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 21/45] arm64: RME: Runtime faulting of memory Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 22/45] KVM: arm64: Handle realm VCPU load Steven Price
2025-03-04 5:15 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 23/45] KVM: arm64: Validate register access for a Realm VM Steven Price
2025-03-04 5:29 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 24/45] KVM: arm64: Handle Realm PSCI requests Steven Price
2025-03-04 5:38 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 25/45] KVM: arm64: WARN on injected undef exceptions Steven Price
2025-03-04 5:39 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 26/45] arm64: Don't expose stolen time for realm guests Steven Price
2025-03-04 5:42 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 27/45] arm64: rme: allow userspace to inject aborts Steven Price
2025-03-04 5:47 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 28/45] arm64: rme: support RSI_HOST_CALL Steven Price
2025-03-04 6:01 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-07 16:34 ` Steven Price
2025-04-08 5:19 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-09 17:31 ` Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 29/45] arm64: rme: Allow checking SVE on VM instance Steven Price
2025-03-04 6:02 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 30/45] arm64: RME: Always use 4k pages for realms Steven Price
2025-03-04 6:23 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-07 16:34 ` Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 31/45] arm64: rme: Prevent Device mappings for Realms Steven Price
2025-03-04 6:27 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 32/45] arm_pmu: Provide a mechanism for disabling the physical IRQ Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 33/45] arm64: rme: Enable PMU support with a realm guest Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 34/45] kvm: rme: Hide KVM_CAP_READONLY_MEM for realm guests Steven Price
2025-03-04 11:51 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-07 16:34 ` Steven Price
2025-04-08 6:37 ` Gavin Shan [this message]
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 35/45] arm64: RME: Propagate number of breakpoints and watchpoints to userspace Steven Price
2025-03-04 23:45 ` Gavin Shan
2025-04-07 16:35 ` Steven Price
2025-04-08 6:39 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 36/45] arm64: RME: Set breakpoint parameters through SET_ONE_REG Steven Price
2025-03-04 23:46 ` Gavin Shan
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 37/45] arm64: RME: Initialize PMCR.N with number counter supported by RMM Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 38/45] arm64: RME: Propagate max SVE vector length from RMM Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 39/45] arm64: RME: Configure max SVE vector length for a Realm Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 40/45] arm64: RME: Provide register list for unfinalized RME RECs Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 41/45] arm64: RME: Provide accurate register list Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 42/45] arm64: kvm: Expose support for private memory Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 43/45] KVM: arm64: Expose KVM_ARM_VCPU_REC to user space Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 44/45] KVM: arm64: Allow activating realms Steven Price
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v7 45/45] WIP: Enable support for PAGE_SIZE>4k Steven Price
2025-03-05 3:53 ` [PATCH v7 00/45] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Gavin Shan
2025-03-26 2:14 ` Emi Kisanuki (Fujitsu)
2025-03-26 6:14 ` Oliver Upton
2025-04-01 6:54 ` Emi Kisanuki (Fujitsu)
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