From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>
To: Jeffrey Hugo <quic_jhugo@quicinc.com>,
Alexandre Bailon <abailon@baylibre.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Add a DRM driver to support AI Processing Unit (APU)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 16:34:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ha5xud3m7.fsf@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0807fe4-dba2-8244-f655-d04e80973572@quicinc.com>
Jeffrey Hugo <quic_jhugo@quicinc.com> writes:
> On 5/17/2023 8:52 AM, Alexandre Bailon wrote:
>> This adds a DRM driver that implements communication between the CPU and an
>> APU. The driver target embedded device that usually run inference using some
>> prebuilt models. The goal is to provide common infrastructure that could be
>> re-used to support many accelerators. Both kernel, userspace and firmware tries
>> to use standard and existing to leverage the development and maintenance effort.
>> The series implements two platform drivers, one for simulation and another one for
>> the mt8183 (compatible with mt8365).
>
> This looks like the 3 existing Accel drivers. Why is this in DRM?
Yes, this belongs in accel. I think Alex had some issues around the
infra in accel with device nodes not appearing/opening properly, but
I'll let him comment there. But either way, the right approach should
be to fix any issues in accel and move it there.
[...]
>> .../devicetree/bindings/gpu/mtk,apu-drm.yaml | 38 ++
>> drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig | 2 +
>> drivers/gpu/drm/Makefile | 1 +
>> drivers/gpu/drm/apu/Kconfig | 22 +
>> drivers/gpu/drm/apu/Makefile | 10 +
>> drivers/gpu/drm/apu/apu_drv.c | 282 +++++++++
>> drivers/gpu/drm/apu/apu_gem.c | 230 +++++++
>> drivers/gpu/drm/apu/apu_internal.h | 205 ++++++
>> drivers/gpu/drm/apu/apu_sched.c | 592 ++++++++++++++++++
>> drivers/gpu/drm/apu/simu_apu.c | 313 +++++++++
>> include/uapi/drm/apu_drm.h | 81 +++
>
> "apu" seems too generic. We already have 3 "AI processing units" over
> in drivers/accel already...
Indeed, it is generic, but that's kind of the point for this driver
since it's targetted at generalizing the interface with "AI processing
units" on a growing number of embedded SoCs (ARM, RISC-V, etc.) In
addition, the generic naming is intentional because the goal is bigger
than the kernel and is working towards a generic, shared "libAPU"
userspace[1], but also common firmware for DSP-style inference engines
(e.g. analgous Sound Open Firmware for audio DSPs.)
As usual, the various SoC vendors use different names (APU, NPU, NN
unit, etc.) but we'd like a generic name for the class of devices
targetted by this driver. And unfortunately, it looks like the equally
generic "Versatile processing unit" is already taken Intel's
drivers/accel/ivpu. :)
Maybe since this is more about generalizing the interface between the
CPU running linux and the APU, what about the name apu_if? But I guess
that applies to the other 3 drivers in drivers/accell also. Hmmm...
Naming things is hard[2], so we're definitly open to other ideas. Any
suggestions?
Kevin
[1] https://gitlab.baylibre.com/baylibre/libapu/libapu
[2]
"There are 2 hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation,
naming things and off-by-1 errors."
-- https://twitter.com/secretGeek/status/7269997868
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-17 14:52 [PATCH 0/7] Add a DRM driver to support AI Processing Unit (APU) Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 1/7] drm: Add support of AI Processor " Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 2/7] drm/apu: Add memory allocator Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 3/7] drm/apu: Add support of requests Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 4/7] drm/apu: Add support of IOMMU Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-18 13:24 ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 5/7] drm/apu: allow platform driver to implement their own mmap function Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 19:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-05-26 15:08 ` Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 6/7] drm/apu: Add support for a simulated APU Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 7/7] dt-bindings: Add bidings for mtk,apu-drm Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 15:04 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-05-17 17:28 ` Conor Dooley
2023-05-22 8:53 ` Alexandre Bailon
2023-05-17 15:28 ` Rob Herring
2023-05-17 16:53 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-05-17 19:38 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-05-17 19:41 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-05-17 15:05 ` [PATCH 0/7] Add a DRM driver to support AI Processing Unit (APU) Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-17 15:12 ` Jeffrey Hugo
2023-05-23 23:34 ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2023-05-24 10:27 ` Oded Gabbay
2023-05-24 10:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-05-26 15:45 ` Alexandre Bailon
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