From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A559C79F9F for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2026 16:28:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:List-Subscribe:List-Help :List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=EiMUb09Jvxs7NrQG1aOllnmjFb7UiG94hZES2d8k7mk=; b=XXaPFvfexkAPM0XHJHwZfwJEV1 2PEi+YN2JLKhYFVOmsqjv1ApqAYRkVYkVxyG1PziXLkcPQPLmWYDT8pn4HnS+Wiys4qmjUmQ+Sh3D ocxofMDaGcAbpCvNWjNaxKyXNQ1TqPutUI9YpOJx7maEysZKJCGgGjeFf6OV5as4aqI4a0NXCXA6i +qV1LKu/EeU4RhlykrsQJl+1UhpgeanxI8L5gxbTa9eHi+/VPxGll5Z9/6dfHqvZS5+H81P04ou+K OZ+jBr8GyJ8MPboERLv8PWl47HrAl9Tk2+sjxyZ1VhgTPAtbo6zADHOT7GX3zxZgO26Ok6Rzuo1tz GYBS2meQ==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.99.1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1x4hdX-0000000Ex1N-1ywB; Thu, 10 Sep 2026 16:28:32 +0000 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.110.172]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.99.1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1x4hdU-0000000Ex0Y-3WrN for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2026 16:28:30 +0000 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4834622C8; Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.2.212.8] (e134344.arm.com [10.2.212.8]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C75F43F86C; Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:28:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arm.com; s=foss; t=1789057704; bh=0Rxw/cZpFE2t2adNIrSGwGJp/YF57F3N45av5Yu81XU=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=dBlF0p7gfD82GdlOpkOWBeu4vxuGyUtbRqOEO1NDaq3D+df9gdytWEIt5692StFpi vc6OnlBQ5WtmnUWKVESE18UxbWk9ajg4PJgjOJ9inFaVfP43w+anYiePWe3NgoBcoT xihofpJAKCzPwGBQgDyJ9iNNrAWabZyc+RjTj88A= Message-ID: <86603611-b20d-4a0a-a247-8cebb11b3432@arm.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:28:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] arm_mpam: resctrl: Separate MPAM domains To: Reinette Chatre , james.morse@arm.com, Dave.Martin@arm.com, fenghuay@nvidia.com Cc: tony.luck@intel.com, babu.moger@amd.com, yu.c.chen@intel.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev References: <85ca29e89eacf12cfa7071249419e7cadb8f0691.1788220029.git.reinette.chatre@intel.com> <0b0eef2d-ce3b-48c8-af08-5889e7396e4f@arm.com> <96eda554-64a1-4f1e-9608-98cd106b00da@arm.com> <26e294a0-76a6-4ec0-9df8-021a76bf8ed9@intel.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Ben Horgan In-Reply-To: <26e294a0-76a6-4ec0-9df8-021a76bf8ed9@intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.9.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20260910_092829_065875_70627112 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 28.49 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org Hi Reinette, On 10/09/2026 16:37, Reinette Chatre wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On 9/10/26 4:11 AM, Ben Horgan wrote: >> On 08/09/2026 22:12, Reinette Chatre wrote: >>> On 9/7/26 10:01 AM, Ben Horgan wrote: >>>> On 03/09/2026 16:29, Reinette Chatre wrote: >>>>> On 9/2/26 9:10 AM, Ben Horgan wrote: >>>>>> On 01/09/2026 00:54, Reinette Chatre wrote: > > ... > >>>>> It is not clear to me if a mon_comp of NULL is able to handle all scenarios since it looks >>>>> like mpam_resctrl_get_mon_domain_from_cpu() and mpam_resctrl_online_domain_hdr() does not >>>>> consider the component at all. Would that not cause monitoring features to depend on which >>>>> CPU of a domain comes online first? >>>>> >>>>> Could mon_comp perhaps be required to be !NULL here as a replacement for the earlier >>>>> "ctrl_comp" check to ensure there is a component with the CPU in its affinity mask? >>>> >>>> Doesn't the !any_mon_comp check provide this? >>> >>> This is the part that I do not understand since any_mon_comp seems to support the scenario >>> where a mon_comp may be NULL which is a scenario that I do not think resctrl can support. >> >> Ah, I see what you are getting at. As the monitor components are only considered when there topology >> matches the l3 cache (same cpu affinity for each instance) then the find_component() call will never >> fail and so mon_comp can't be NULL at this point. >> >>> >>> At a high level there seems to be three affinity masks used by the monitoring code: >>> the CPU affinity of the component belonging to the control resource class, the CPU affinity >>> of each component supporting each monitoring event, while these are three separate masks with >>> code sometimes treating them as though they can be different they are actually required to be the same? >> >> Monitor component CPU affinity is enforced by topology_matches_l3() to be the same as the L3. >> Additionally, traffic_matches_l3() adds extra conditions that mean that there can be considered an >> uninterrupted link between l3 and memory and so an MSC at either end is effectively the same. Namely >> the same restrictions I've mentioned before, only a single l3 cache, a single NUMA node and no >> intermediate caches. >> >> You list two rather than three here? Possibly you are also thinking the MSC cpu affinity which can > > I did mention three masks. Thank you for clarifying how the one mask (the "ctrl_comp" one) is associated with > either that of the control class or the same as the class associated with the first event. Ah yes, I misunderstood. > > Regarding the other two masks: it seems to me as though the CPU masks associated with the two supported events > are managed separately. This means that theoretically the class associated with QOS_L3_OCCUP_EVENT_ID could have > components with different affinity from the components of the class associated with QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID. A CPU > being onlined could thus be associated with QOS_L3_OCCUP_EVENT_ID (resulting in mon_comp being > initialized for this CPU) but not with QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID (mon_comp is NULL for the same CPU). In > this scenario, "any_mon_comp" will be true and the domain created and onlined while it does not > actually support both events? Hmm, it depends what you mean by "theoretically". In mpam_resctrl_pick_counters() the class to back each event is chosen. For QOS_L3_OCCUP_EVENT_ID it will always be the class at the L3. For QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID the topology_matches_l3() call will check the cpu mask matches the L3. Does that answer query or am I missing something else? Thanks, Ben > > ... >>> I think that it will support the multiple control work if this is done upstream first. >>> I will incorporate your changes in the next version ... I believe that would make you >>> a co-author? >> >> I don't think co-author is necessary as I've just offered review and you mentioned you'd already >> tried out the new structures. Up to you though. > Let's see how the next version goes as I become more familiar with MPAM. > > Thank you very much for all the insights. > > Reinette >