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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>
Cc: "kvmarm@lists.linux.dev" <kvmarm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Chase Conklin <chase.conklin@arm.com>,
	Eric Auger <eauger@redhat.com>,
	Dmytro Terletskyi <Dmytro_Terletskyi@epam.com>,
	Wei-Lin Chang <r09922117@csie.ntu.edu.tw>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Sync nested timer state with FEAT_NV2
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:17:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86frl3uo8q.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5bb18j7.fsf@epam.com>

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 11:29:18 +0000,
Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Marc,
> 
> 
> Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > + Wei-Lin Chang, who spotted something similar 3 weeks ago, that I
> > didn't manage to investigate in time.
> >
> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 15:25:39 +0000,
> > Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Marc,
> >> 
> >> Thank you for these patches. We (myself and Dmytro Terletskyi) are
> >> trying to use this series to launch up Xen on Amazon Graviton 4 platform.
> >> Graviton 4 is built on Neoverse V2 cores and does **not** support
> >> FEAT_ECV. Looks like we have found issue in this particular patch on
> >> this particular setup.
> >> 
> >> Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Emulating the timers with FEAT_NV2 is a bit odd, as the timers
> >> > can be reconfigured behind our back without the hypervisor even
> >> > noticing. In the VHE case, that's an actual regression in the
> >> > architecture...
> >> >
> >> > Co-developed-by: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>
> >> > Signed-off-by: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>
> >> > Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> >> > ---
> >> >  arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c  | 44 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >  arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c         |  3 +++
> >> >  include/kvm/arm_arch_timer.h |  1 +
> >> >  3 files changed, 48 insertions(+)
> >> >
> >> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
> >> > index 1215df5904185..ee5f732fbbece 100644
> >> > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
> >> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
> >> > @@ -905,6 +905,50 @@ void kvm_timer_vcpu_put(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >> >  		kvm_timer_blocking(vcpu);
> >> >  }
> >> >  
> >> > +void kvm_timer_sync_nested(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >> > +{
> >> > +	/*
> >> > +	 * When NV2 is on, guest hypervisors have their EL1 timer register
> >> > +	 * accesses redirected to the VNCR page. Any guest action taken on
> >> > +	 * the timer is postponed until the next exit, leading to a very
> >> > +	 * poor quality of emulation.
> >> > +	 */
> >> > +	if (!is_hyp_ctxt(vcpu))
> >> > +		return;
> >> > +
> >> > +	if (!vcpu_el2_e2h_is_set(vcpu)) {
> >> > +		/*
> >> > +		 * A non-VHE guest hypervisor doesn't have any direct access
> >> > +		 * to its timers: the EL2 registers trap (and the HW is
> >> > +		 * fully emulated), while the EL0 registers access memory
> >> > +		 * despite the access being notionally direct. Boo.
> >> > +		 *
> >> > +		 * We update the hardware timer registers with the
> >> > +		 * latest value written by the guest to the VNCR page
> >> > +		 * and let the hardware take care of the rest.
> >> > +		 */
> >> > +		write_sysreg_el0(__vcpu_sys_reg(vcpu, CNTV_CTL_EL0),  SYS_CNTV_CTL);
> >> > +		write_sysreg_el0(__vcpu_sys_reg(vcpu, CNTV_CVAL_EL0), SYS_CNTV_CVAL);
> >> > +		write_sysreg_el0(__vcpu_sys_reg(vcpu, CNTP_CTL_EL0),  SYS_CNTP_CTL);
> >> > +		write_sysreg_el0(__vcpu_sys_reg(vcpu, CNTP_CVAL_EL0), SYS_CNTP_CVAL);
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Here you are overwriting trapped/emulated state of  EL2 vtimer with EL0
> >> vtimer, which renders all writes to EL2 timer registers useless.
> >> 
> >> This is the behavior we observed:
> >> 
> >>  1. Xen writes to CNTHP_CVAL_EL2, which is trapped and handled in
> >>     kvm_arm_timer_write_sysreg().
> >> 
> >>  2. timer_set_cval() updates __vcpu_sys_reg(vcpu, CNTHP_CVAL_EL2)
> >> 
> >>  3. timer_restore_state() updates real CNTP_CVAL_EL0 with value from
> >>    __vcpu_sys_reg(vcpu, CNTHP_CVAL_EL2)
> >> 
> >>  (so far so good)
> >> 
> >>  4. kvm_timer_sync_nested() is called and it updates real CNTP_CVAL_EL0
> >>  with __vcpu_sys_reg(vcpu, CNTP_CVAL_EL0), overwriting value that we got
> >>  from Xen.
> >> 
> >> The same stands for other hypervisor timer registers of course.
> >> 
> >> I am wondering, what is the correct fix for this issue?
> >> 
> >> Also, we are observing issues with timers in Dom0, which seems related
> >> to this, but we didn't pinpoint exact problem yet.
> >
> > Thanks for the great debug above, much appreciated.
> >
> > As Wei-Lin pointed out in their email[1], there is a copious amount of
> > nonsense here. This is due to leftovers from the mix of NV+NV2 that
> > KVM was initially trying to handle before switching to NV2 only.
> >
> > The whole VHE vs nVHE makes no sense at all, and both should have the
> > same behaviour. The only difference is around what gets trapped, and
> > what doesn't.
> >
> > Finally, this crap is masking a subtle bug in timer_emulate(), where
> > we return too early on updating the IRQ state, hence failing to
> > publish the interrupt state.
> >
> > Could you please give the hack below a go with your setup and report
> > whether it solves this particular issue?
> 
> Thanks! This is exactly what we needed. Your suggested changes fixed
> both issues: in Xen and in Dom0.

Great, thanks for letting me know.

I'll shortly post the fixes on the list, and would appreciate it if
you could reply with a Tested-by: tag.

Thanks again,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-28 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 14:23 [PATCH v2 00/12] KVM: arm64: Add NV timer support Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Add handling of EL2-specific timer registers Marc Zyngier
2024-12-21  1:38   ` Oliver Upton
2024-12-21  9:57     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-12-21 21:58       ` Oliver Upton
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Sync nested timer state with FEAT_NV2 Marc Zyngier
2025-01-06  2:19   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2025-01-26 15:25   ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2025-01-27 17:15     ` Marc Zyngier
2025-01-28 11:29       ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2025-01-28 12:17         ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2025-01-28 13:56           ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Publish emulated timer interrupt state in the in-memory state Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Use FEAT_ECV to trap access to EL0 timers Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Accelerate EL0 timer read accesses when FEAT_ECV in use Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Accelerate EL0 counter accesses from hypervisor context Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] KVM: arm64: Handle counter access early in non-HYP context Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Add trap routing for CNTHCTL_EL2.EL1{NVPCT,NVVCT,TVT,TVCT} Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Propagate CNTHCTL_EL2.EL1NV{P,V}CT bits Marc Zyngier
2025-01-06  2:33   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2025-01-17 15:19     ` Marc Zyngier
2025-01-21  6:04       ` Wei-Lin Chang
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Sanitise CNTHCTL_EL2 Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] KVM: arm64: Work around x1e's CNTVOFF_EL2 bogosity Marc Zyngier
2024-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] KVM: arm64: nv: Document EL2 timer API Marc Zyngier
2025-01-02 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] KVM: arm64: Add NV timer support Oliver Upton
2025-01-02 19:25 ` Marc Zyngier

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