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From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nicolinc@nvidia.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	zhi.wang.linux@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: Notify on pte permission upgrades
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:56:22 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qiwqce2.fsf@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZHdn+FsH6BWcK7C4@nvidia.com>


Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:

> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:46:06PM +1000, Alistair Popple wrote:
>> 
>> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:30:48AM +1000, Alistair Popple wrote:
>> >
>> >> So I'd rather keep the invalidate in ptep_set_access_flags(). Would
>> >> renaming invalidate_range() to invalidate_arch_secondary_tlb() along
>> >> with clearing up the documentation make that more acceptable, at least
>> >> in the short term?
>> >
>> > Then we need to go through removing kvm first I think.
>> 
>> Why? I don't think we need to hold up a fix for something that is an
>> issue today so we can rework a fix for an unrelated problem. 
>
> I'm nervous about affecting KVM's weird usage if we go in and start
> making changes. Getting rid of it first is much safer

Fair enough. In this case though I think we're safe because we won't be
affecting KVM's usage of it - my change only affects ARM64 and KVM only
really uses this on x86 via the arch-specific
kvm_arch_mmu_notifier_invalidate_range() definition.

>> > Yeah, I think I would call it invalidate_arch_secondary_tlb() and
>> > document it as being an arch specific set of invalidations that match
>> > the architected TLB maintenance requrements. And maybe we can check it
>> > more carefully to make it be called in less places. Like I'm not sure
>> > it is right to call it from invalidate_range_end under this new
>> > definition..
>> 
>> I will look at this in more depth, but this comment reminded me there is
>> already an issue with calling .invalidate_range() from
>> invalidate_range_end(). We have seen slow downs when unmapping unused
>> ranges because unmap_vmas() will call .invalidate_range() via
>> .invalidate_range_end() flooding the SMMU with invalidates even though
>> zap_pte_range() skipped it because the PTEs were pte_none.
>
> Yes, if the new API is specifically about synchronizing an architected
> TLB then really the call to the op should be done near the
> architectures TLB flush points, and not higher in the MM.
>
> ie any flush of the CPU tlb should mirror 1:1 to a flush of the IOMMU
> TLB, no broadinging or narrowing.
>
> It is a very clean defintion and we can leap directly to it once we
> get kvm out of the way.

Yes, no argument there.

> Jason


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-24  1:47 [PATCH 1/2] mmu_notifiers: Restore documentation for .invalidate_range() Alistair Popple
2023-05-24  1:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: Notify on pte permission upgrades Alistair Popple
2023-05-28  0:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30  8:05     ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-30 11:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30 12:14         ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-30 12:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30 13:44             ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-30 14:06               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30 21:44                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-30 23:08                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-31  0:30                     ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-31  0:32                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-31  2:46                         ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-31 15:30                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-31 23:56                             ` Alistair Popple [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <31cdd164783fefad4c9ef4a6d33c1e0094405d0f03added523a82dd9febdf15f@mu.id>
2023-06-09  2:06                         ` Alistair Popple
2023-06-09  6:05                           ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-24  2:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] mmu_notifiers: Restore documentation for .invalidate_range() John Hubbard
2023-05-24  4:45   ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-27 23:56   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-24  3:48 ` Zhi Wang
2023-05-24  4:57   ` Alistair Popple

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