From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
will@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nicolinc@nvidia.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
zhi.wang.linux@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: Notify on pte permission upgrades
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:56:22 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qiwqce2.fsf@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZHdn+FsH6BWcK7C4@nvidia.com>
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:
> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:46:06PM +1000, Alistair Popple wrote:
>>
>> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:30:48AM +1000, Alistair Popple wrote:
>> >
>> >> So I'd rather keep the invalidate in ptep_set_access_flags(). Would
>> >> renaming invalidate_range() to invalidate_arch_secondary_tlb() along
>> >> with clearing up the documentation make that more acceptable, at least
>> >> in the short term?
>> >
>> > Then we need to go through removing kvm first I think.
>>
>> Why? I don't think we need to hold up a fix for something that is an
>> issue today so we can rework a fix for an unrelated problem.
>
> I'm nervous about affecting KVM's weird usage if we go in and start
> making changes. Getting rid of it first is much safer
Fair enough. In this case though I think we're safe because we won't be
affecting KVM's usage of it - my change only affects ARM64 and KVM only
really uses this on x86 via the arch-specific
kvm_arch_mmu_notifier_invalidate_range() definition.
>> > Yeah, I think I would call it invalidate_arch_secondary_tlb() and
>> > document it as being an arch specific set of invalidations that match
>> > the architected TLB maintenance requrements. And maybe we can check it
>> > more carefully to make it be called in less places. Like I'm not sure
>> > it is right to call it from invalidate_range_end under this new
>> > definition..
>>
>> I will look at this in more depth, but this comment reminded me there is
>> already an issue with calling .invalidate_range() from
>> invalidate_range_end(). We have seen slow downs when unmapping unused
>> ranges because unmap_vmas() will call .invalidate_range() via
>> .invalidate_range_end() flooding the SMMU with invalidates even though
>> zap_pte_range() skipped it because the PTEs were pte_none.
>
> Yes, if the new API is specifically about synchronizing an architected
> TLB then really the call to the op should be done near the
> architectures TLB flush points, and not higher in the MM.
>
> ie any flush of the CPU tlb should mirror 1:1 to a flush of the IOMMU
> TLB, no broadinging or narrowing.
>
> It is a very clean defintion and we can leap directly to it once we
> get kvm out of the way.
Yes, no argument there.
> Jason
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-01 0:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-24 1:47 [PATCH 1/2] mmu_notifiers: Restore documentation for .invalidate_range() Alistair Popple
2023-05-24 1:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: Notify on pte permission upgrades Alistair Popple
2023-05-28 0:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30 8:05 ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-30 11:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30 12:14 ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-30 12:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30 13:44 ` Robin Murphy
2023-05-30 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-30 21:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-30 23:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-31 0:30 ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-31 0:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-31 2:46 ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-31 15:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-31 23:56 ` Alistair Popple [this message]
[not found] ` <31cdd164783fefad4c9ef4a6d33c1e0094405d0f03added523a82dd9febdf15f@mu.id>
2023-06-09 2:06 ` Alistair Popple
2023-06-09 6:05 ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-24 2:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] mmu_notifiers: Restore documentation for .invalidate_range() John Hubbard
2023-05-24 4:45 ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-27 23:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-24 3:48 ` Zhi Wang
2023-05-24 4:57 ` Alistair Popple
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