From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Cc: james.morse@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
mark.rutland@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, peter.maydell@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] KVM: arm64: Refuse to run VCPU if the PMU doesn't match the physical CPU
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:21:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871r386zlf.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YZuJIUls8hl85Zia@monolith.localdoman>
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 12:12:17 +0000,
Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Marc,
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 07:35:13PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 16:50:41 +0000,
> > Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Userspace can assign a PMU to a VCPU with the KVM_ARM_VCPU_PMU_V3_SET_PMU
> > > device ioctl. If the VCPU is scheduled on a physical CPU which has a
> > > different PMU, the perf events needed to emulate a guest PMU won't be
> > > scheduled in and the guest performance counters will stop counting. Treat
> > > it as an userspace error and refuse to run the VCPU in this situation.
> > >
> > > The VCPU is flagged as being scheduled on the wrong CPU in vcpu_load(), but
> > > the flag is cleared when the KVM_RUN enters the non-preemptible section
> > > instead of in vcpu_put(); this has been done on purpose so the error
> > > condition is communicated as soon as possible to userspace, otherwise
> > > vcpu_load() on the wrong CPU followed by a vcpu_put() could clear the flag.
> >
> > Can we make this something orthogonal to the PMU, and get userspace to
> > pick an affinity mask independently of instantiating a PMU? I can
> > imagine this would also be useful for SPE on asymmetric systems.
>
> I actually went this way for the latest version of the SPE series [1] and
> dropped the explicit userspace ioctl in favor of this mechanism.
>
> The expectation is that userspace already knows which CPUs are associated
> with the chosen PMU (or SPE) when setting the PMU for the VCPU, and having
> userspace set it explicitely via an ioctl looks like an unnecessary step to
> me. I don't see other usecases of an explicit ioctl outside of the above
> two situation (if userspace wants a VCPU to run only on specific CPUs, it
> can use thread affinity for that), so I decided to drop it.
My problem with that is that if you have (for whatever reason) a set
of affinities that are not strictly identical for both PMU and SPE,
and expose both of these to a guest, what do you choose?
As long as you have a single affinity set to take care of, you're
good. It is when you have several ones that it becomes ugly (as with
anything involving asymmetric CPUs).
M.
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-15 16:50 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: arm64: Improve PMU support on heterogeneous systems Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-15 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf: Fix wrong name in comment for struct perf_cpu_context Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-15 16:50 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: arm64: Keep a list of probed PMUs Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-15 16:50 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: arm64: Add KVM_ARM_VCPU_PMU_V3_SET_PMU attribute Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-21 19:11 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-22 11:29 ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-15 16:50 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: arm64: Refuse to run VCPU if the PMU doesn't match the physical CPU Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-21 19:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-22 12:12 ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-22 14:21 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-11-22 14:43 ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-12-06 10:15 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-12-06 10:26 ` Alexandru Elisei
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