From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85A62C433F5 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:22:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To: Subject:Cc:To:From:Message-ID:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=VnPN9VKsV5usAtMjTmW1CN3ybwFzw3/dUY0cgJSJ5x4=; b=S5WNrCgIcubB+L mn6DdDm6CU7XePlQr7DsVNZ/t0uHgXGD6yICfZlq/eQulE/fGyDUzmxaT9n1xuJkHXyY9j6/GI8pE ZtIHMCJjrEF9L55VetHor0HrdovmsfAm/wuUYnhPcFjf0SAv+5xDeHfShbkusww/UihDzkRNEe9E2 CPjapdIuSync4r4YfDAhV3eNjK+xgrf+m3F8Jha0cxSIoAG35Se3PIgu2P5tQFQ8SSPs8DaeQtXE7 PQPGUhzBm9Wi+O2dXfDQedqXx78tpt4+fr0YQdv7X/bmuTn9RiwX0Bh7mrAbLDytruHfviNP1gaAt N2ZIOCfBOkElmCjSq2fw==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1mpABx-00GpFg-CW; Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:21:09 +0000 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1mpABr-00GpDL-9e for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:21:06 +0000 Received: from disco-boy.misterjones.org (disco-boy.misterjones.org [51.254.78.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8113960240; Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sofa.misterjones.org ([185.219.108.64] helo=why.misterjones.org) by disco-boy.misterjones.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mpABo-0074Ov-Fq; Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:21:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:21:00 +0000 Message-ID: <871r386zlf.wl-maz@kernel.org> From: Marc Zyngier To: Alexandru Elisei Cc: james.morse@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, will@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, peter.maydell@linaro.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] KVM: arm64: Refuse to run VCPU if the PMU doesn't match the physical CPU In-Reply-To: References: <20211115165041.194884-1-alexandru.elisei@arm.com> <20211115165041.194884-5-alexandru.elisei@arm.com> <87bl2ds3ny.wl-maz@kernel.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/27.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 185.219.108.64 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: alexandru.elisei@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, will@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, peter.maydell@linaro.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: maz@kernel.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on disco-boy.misterjones.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20211122_062103_437403_D633E241 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 33.04 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 12:12:17 +0000, Alexandru Elisei wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 07:35:13PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 16:50:41 +0000, > > Alexandru Elisei wrote: > > > > > > Userspace can assign a PMU to a VCPU with the KVM_ARM_VCPU_PMU_V3_SET_PMU > > > device ioctl. If the VCPU is scheduled on a physical CPU which has a > > > different PMU, the perf events needed to emulate a guest PMU won't be > > > scheduled in and the guest performance counters will stop counting. Treat > > > it as an userspace error and refuse to run the VCPU in this situation. > > > > > > The VCPU is flagged as being scheduled on the wrong CPU in vcpu_load(), but > > > the flag is cleared when the KVM_RUN enters the non-preemptible section > > > instead of in vcpu_put(); this has been done on purpose so the error > > > condition is communicated as soon as possible to userspace, otherwise > > > vcpu_load() on the wrong CPU followed by a vcpu_put() could clear the flag. > > > > Can we make this something orthogonal to the PMU, and get userspace to > > pick an affinity mask independently of instantiating a PMU? I can > > imagine this would also be useful for SPE on asymmetric systems. > > I actually went this way for the latest version of the SPE series [1] and > dropped the explicit userspace ioctl in favor of this mechanism. > > The expectation is that userspace already knows which CPUs are associated > with the chosen PMU (or SPE) when setting the PMU for the VCPU, and having > userspace set it explicitely via an ioctl looks like an unnecessary step to > me. I don't see other usecases of an explicit ioctl outside of the above > two situation (if userspace wants a VCPU to run only on specific CPUs, it > can use thread affinity for that), so I decided to drop it. My problem with that is that if you have (for whatever reason) a set of affinities that are not strictly identical for both PMU and SPE, and expose both of these to a guest, what do you choose? As long as you have a single affinity set to take care of, you're good. It is when you have several ones that it becomes ugly (as with anything involving asymmetric CPUs). M. -- Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel