From: Tian Zheng <zhengtian10@huawei.com>
To: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] Support the FEAT_HDBSS introduced in Armv9.5
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 17:37:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8757dfcf-aae4-4716-9ff1-c3140d4cc63e@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alS-kcwvlASwPIzL@LeoBrasDK>
On 7/13/2026 6:31 PM, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2026 at 06:40:20PM +0800, Tian Zheng wrote:
>> This series of patches add support to the Hardware Dirty state tracking
>> Structure (HDBSS) feature, which is introduced by the ARM architecture
>> in the DDI0601 (ID121123) version.
>>
>> The HDBSS feature is an extension to the architecture that enhances
>> tracking translation table descriptors' dirty state, identified as
>> FEAT_HDBSS. This feature utilizes hardware assistance to achieve dirty
>> page tracking, aiming to significantly reduce the overhead of scanning
>> for dirty pages.
>>
>> The purpose of this feature is to make the execution overhead of live
>> migration lower to both the guest and the host, compared to existing
>> approaches (write-protect or search stage-2 tables).
>>
>> The required sysreg definitions for FEAT_HDBSS have been merged into
>> arm64 /sysregs:
>> [1/5] arm64/sysreg: Add HDBSS related register information
>> https://git.kernel.org/arm64/c/72f7be0c2e30
>>
>>
>> After these patches, the kernel automatically enables HDBSS when dirty
>> logging is enabled on any memslot, and disables HDBSS when dirty logging
>> is disabled on all memslots. This series does not support dirty ring
>> mode.
>>
>> Depends-on: "KVM: arm64: Enable eager hugepage splitting if HDBSS is available"
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20260629111820.1873540-3-leo.bras@arm.com/
> On this, FYI, there have been some discussion on this:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/alETGFD2Ogx6N0HB@LeoBrasDK/
>
> Oliver's suggestion is that we don't automatically enable eager splitting,
> but instead we have different behaviours if the user enables it.
>
> This is still under discussion there, but I think it can be useful reading.
Thanks for the pointer — I've read through the discussion between you
and Oliver, and it's very helpful.
If I understand correctly, the proposed approach is to support both
modes, with DBM behavior depending
on the user's eager split setting:
- If users enable eager splitting (chunk_size != 0): use the v4 approach
— DBM is set globally.
- If users do NOT enable eager splitting (chunk_size == 0, i.e., lazy
split mode): use the v3 approach — DBM
is set lazily in user_mem_abort on the first write fault.
This makes sense to me. It gives users the flexibility to choose.
As I mentioned in my patch 6/6 reply
(https://lore.kernel.org/all/6e8b23bc-d420-4f5a-a921-5a5d64d84200@huawei.com/),
I do think the lazy DBM approach is safer overall if the first-fault
overhead is acceptable — it avoids accidentally marking
special mappings and naturally handles lazy split.
I'll keep an eye on the discussion and follow up once a conclusion is
reached.
Thanks!
Tian
>> This dependency is mandatory. Unlike v3, where DBM was added lazily on
>> the first dirty access via a page fault, v4 injects DBM into pgt->flags
>> at stage-2 MMU initialization time. Combined with HDBSS being auto-enabled
>> during migration setup, the first dirty access no longer triggers a page
>> fault. Consequently, if lazy hugepage splitting were relied upon (which
>> requires a page fault to trigger splitting), hugepages would never be
>> split, leading to guest hang after migration. Leonardo's patch above
>> ensures eager hugepage splitting is enabled (chunk_size != 0) when HDBSS
>> is available, guaranteeing that hugepages are properly split before
>> migration starts.
>>
>> v3: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20260225040421.2683931-1-zhengtian10@huawei.com/
>>
>> v3->v4 changes:
>> - Merge sysreg definitions into the FEAT_HDBSS detection patch (was a
>> separate patch in v3).
>> - Add auto DBM (Dirty Bit Modifier) support as a new patch, suggested
>> by Leonardo Bras. DBM is now controlled as a page-table level flag
>> (KVM_PGTABLE_S2_DBM) rather than per-PTE. Note that DBM is injected
>> at stage-2 MMU creation time, not lazily on first dirty access. This
>> means the first write to a dirty-logged page does not generate a
>> page fault, which is a key reason for the mandatory dependency on
>> Leonardo's eager hugepage splitting patch (see Depends-on above).
>> - Split the v3 "Enable HDBSS support and handle HDBSSF events" patch
>> into three patches: per-vCPU buffer management, fault handling and
>> buffer flush, and auto enable/disable on dirty logging change. This
>> implements kernel-managed automatic HDBSS enable/disable.
>> - Remove the KVM_CAP_ARM_HW_DIRTY_STATE_TRACK ioctl for manual HDBSS
>> on/off. HDBSS is now automatically enabled/disabled based on dirty
>> logging state via kvm_arch_commit_memory_region().
>> - Change HDBSS buffer flush triggers to vcpu_put, check_vcpu_requests,
>> and kvm_handle_guest_abort.
>> - Store hdbss_order at VM level (kvm->arch.hdbss_order) instead of
>> per-vCPU, since all vCPUs share the same order.
>> - Document patch is not included in this version; will be sent in a
>> follow-up series.
>>
>> Leonardo Bras (1):
>> KVM: arm64: Enable eager hugepage splitting if HDBSS is available
>>
>> Tian Zheng (2):
>> KVM: arm64: Add support for FEAT_HDBSS
>> KVM: arm64: Add auto DBM support for hardware dirty tracking
>>
>> eillon (3):
>> KVM: arm64: Add HDBSS per-vCPU buffer management
>> KVM: arm64: Add HDBSS fault handling and buffer flush
>> KVM: arm64: Add auto HDBSS enable/disable on dirty logging change
>>
>> arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h | 5 +
>> arch/arm64/include/asm/esr.h | 5 +
>> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_dirty_bit.h | 29 ++++
>> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 14 ++
>> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_pgtable.h | 4 +
>> arch/arm64/include/asm/sysreg.h | 11 ++
>> arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c | 12 ++
>> arch/arm64/kvm/Makefile | 1 +
>> arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 29 ++++
>> arch/arm64/kvm/dirty_bit.c | 219 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c | 35 +++-
>> arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/vhe/switch.c | 15 ++
>> arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c | 19 ++-
>> arch/arm64/kvm/reset.c | 4 +
>> arch/arm64/tools/cpucaps | 1 +
>> 15 files changed, 399 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>> create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_dirty_bit.h
>> create mode 100644 arch/arm64/kvm/dirty_bit.c
>>
>> --
>> 2.33.0
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-14 9:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-09 10:40 [PATCH v4 0/6] Support the FEAT_HDBSS introduced in Armv9.5 Tian Zheng
2026-07-09 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] KVM: arm64: Enable eager hugepage splitting if HDBSS is available Tian Zheng
2026-07-09 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] KVM: arm64: Add support for FEAT_HDBSS Tian Zheng
2026-07-09 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] KVM: arm64: Add auto DBM support for hardware dirty tracking Tian Zheng
2026-07-13 11:17 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 1:14 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-14 7:23 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-07-14 7:44 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-14 10:20 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-09 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] KVM: arm64: Add HDBSS per-vCPU buffer management Tian Zheng
2026-07-13 13:39 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 7:15 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-14 10:47 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-09 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] KVM: arm64: Add HDBSS fault handling and buffer flush Tian Zheng
2026-07-13 14:06 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 7:38 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-14 10:50 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 13:27 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-09 10:40 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] KVM: arm64: Add auto HDBSS enable/disable on dirty logging change Tian Zheng
2026-07-13 14:50 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 8:58 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-14 11:16 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-13 10:31 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Support the FEAT_HDBSS introduced in Armv9.5 Leonardo Bras
2026-07-13 16:27 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 10:39 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-14 11:20 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 13:29 ` Tian Zheng
2026-07-14 9:37 ` Tian Zheng [this message]
2026-07-14 10:19 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-07-14 13:34 ` Tian Zheng
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