From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v7 7/7] cpuidle/poll_state: Poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 21:41:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ms5ajp4c.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0hSvzHfsE4nrEW-Ey0dnJ+m=dSU-f1RywGNU0Xyi3jXtQ@mail.gmail.com>
Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> writes:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 6:32 AM Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> The inner loop in poll_idle() polls over the thread_info flags,
>> waiting to see if the thread has TIF_NEED_RESCHED set. The loop
>> exits once the condition is met, or if the poll time limit has
>> been exceeded.
>>
>> To minimize the number of instructions executed in each iteration,
>> the time check is done only intermittently (once every
>> POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT iterations). In addition, each loop iteration
>> executes cpu_relax() which on certain platforms provides a hint to
>> the pipeline that the loop busy-waits, allowing the processor to
>> reduce power consumption.
>>
>> This is close to what smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() provides. So,
>> restructure the loop and fold the loop condition and the timeout check
>> in smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout().
>
> Well, it is close, but is it close enough?
I guess that's the question.
>> Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
>> ---
>> drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c | 29 ++++++++---------------------
>> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c b/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
>> index 9b6d90a72601..dc7f4b424fec 100644
>> --- a/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
>> +++ b/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
>> @@ -8,35 +8,22 @@
>> #include <linux/sched/clock.h>
>> #include <linux/sched/idle.h>
>>
>> -#define POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT 200
>> -
>> static int __cpuidle poll_idle(struct cpuidle_device *dev,
>> struct cpuidle_driver *drv, int index)
>> {
>> - u64 time_start;
>> -
>> - time_start = local_clock_noinstr();
>> + u64 time_end;
>> + u32 flags = 0;
>>
>> dev->poll_time_limit = false;
>>
>> + time_end = local_clock_noinstr() + cpuidle_poll_time(drv, dev);
>
> Is there any particular reason for doing this unconditionally? If
> not, then it looks like an arbitrary unrelated change to me.
Agreed. Will fix.
>> +
>> raw_local_irq_enable();
>> if (!current_set_polling_and_test()) {
>> - unsigned int loop_count = 0;
>> - u64 limit;
>> -
>> - limit = cpuidle_poll_time(drv, dev);
>> -
>> - while (!need_resched()) {
>> - cpu_relax();
>> - if (loop_count++ < POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT)
>> - continue;
>> -
>> - loop_count = 0;
>> - if (local_clock_noinstr() - time_start > limit) {
>> - dev->poll_time_limit = true;
>> - break;
>> - }
>> - }
>> + flags = smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout(¤t_thread_info()->flags,
>> + (VAL & _TIF_NEED_RESCHED),
>> + (local_clock_noinstr() >= time_end));
>
> So my understanding of this is that it reduces duplication with some
> other places doing similar things. Fair enough.
>
> However, since there is "timeout" in the name, I'd expect it to take
> the timeout as an argument.
The early versions did have a timeout but that complicated the
implementation significantly. And the current users poll_idle(),
rqspinlock don't need a precise timeout.
smp_cond_load_relaxed_timed(), smp_cond_load_relaxed_timecheck()?
The problem with all suffixes I can think of is that it makes the
interface itself nonobvious.
Possibly something with the sense of bail out might work.
--
ankur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-29 4:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-28 5:31 [RESEND PATCH v7 0/7] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 1/7] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 9:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-29 3:17 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-02 21:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-03 21:41 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 2/7] arm64: barrier: Support smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 8:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-28 16:21 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-10-28 18:01 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 21:17 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-11-02 21:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-03 21:00 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-04 13:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-11-05 8:27 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-05 10:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-11-06 0:36 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 3/7] arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 4/7] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 5/7] atomic: Add atomic_cond_read_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 6/7] rqspinlock: Use smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 5:31 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 7/7] cpuidle/poll_state: Poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2025-10-28 12:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-29 4:41 ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2025-10-29 18:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-29 19:13 ` Ankur Arora
2025-10-29 20:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-29 21:01 ` Ankur Arora
2025-11-04 18:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-11-05 8:30 ` Ankur Arora
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