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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 14:55:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87plnzpvb6.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8634kx5yqd.wl-maz@kernel.org>


Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> writes:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:24:14 +0100,
> Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> This patchset enables the cpuidle-haltpoll driver and its namesake
>> governor on arm64. This is specifically interesting for KVM guests by
>> reducing IPC latencies.
>>
>> Comparing idle switching latencies on an arm64 KVM guest with
>> perf bench sched pipe:
>>
>>                                      usecs/op       %stdev
>>
>>   no haltpoll (baseline)               13.48       +-  5.19%
>>   with haltpoll                         6.84       +- 22.07%
>>
>>
>> No change in performance for a similar test on x86:
>>
>>                                      usecs/op        %stdev
>>
>>   haltpoll w/ cpu_relax() (baseline)     4.75      +-  1.76%
>>   haltpoll w/ smp_cond_load_relaxed()    4.78      +-  2.31%
>>
>> Both sets of tests were on otherwise idle systems with guest VCPUs
>> pinned to specific PCPUs. One reason for the higher stdev on arm64
>> is that trapping of the WFE instruction by the host KVM is contingent
>> on the number of tasks on the runqueue.
>
> Sorry to state the obvious, but if that's the variable trapping of
> WFI/WFE is the cause of your trouble, why don't you simply turn it off
> (see 0b5afe05377d for the details)? Given that you pin your vcpus to
> physical CPUs, there is no need for any trapping.

Good point. Thanks. That should help reduce the guessing games around
the variance in these tests.

--
ankur


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-16 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-25 23:24 [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] cpuidle/poll_state: poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed() Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 12:04   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 16:42     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 16:50       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 17:17         ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 17:40           ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 21:53             ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 22:28               ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-16  7:06                 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17 16:54                   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-17 18:36                     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 22:40               ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-16  9:54                 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 16:56                   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-17 18:15                     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 19:34                       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 21:32     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16  6:20       ` maobibo
2024-10-16 10:06       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-16 15:13     ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-16 17:04       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16 18:04         ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-17 14:01       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 22:47         ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 11:05           ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-18 19:00             ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-21 12:02               ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] cpuidle: rename ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX to ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] Kconfig: move ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL to arch/Kconfig Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] cpuidle-haltpoll: define arch_haltpoll_want() Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] governors/haltpoll: drop kvm_para_available() check Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] cpuidle-haltpoll: condition on ARCH_CPUIDLE_HALTPOLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] arm64: define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] arm64: idle: export arch_cpu_idle Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] arm64: select ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] cpuidle/poll_state: limit POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT on arm64 Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] arm64: support cpuidle-haltpoll Ankur Arora
2024-10-02 22:42   ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-03  3:29     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16 15:13   ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-09  2:37 ` [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 zhenglifeng (A)
2024-10-15  1:53   ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-14 22:54 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 12:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-16 21:55   ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2024-10-17  8:19     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-17 18:35       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22 22:01         ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-05 18:30 ` Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 1/5] asm-generic: add smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:36     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:06       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 18:13       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 19:55         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 20:31           ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:39     ` Will Deacon
2024-11-06 17:18       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 2/5] arm64: add __READ_ONCE_EX() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:39     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:37       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:43     ` Will Deacon
2024-11-06 17:09       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-09  9:49     ` David Laight
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 3/5] arm64: refactor delay() to enable polling for value Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:42     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:42       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06  9:18     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 17:38       ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 4/5] arm64: add smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 18:30   ` [PATCH 5/5] cpuidle: implement poll_idle() using smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:45     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-05 18:49   ` [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 Ankur Arora

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