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Miller" , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, "Larry Finger" Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging References: <20231010155444.858483-1-arnd@kernel.org> <2023101051-unmasked-cleaver-79b3@gregkh> <87y1g94szz.fsf@kernel.org> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:44:00 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:24:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87r0m14khb.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20231011_014407_514889_4A475463 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 17.46 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org "Arnd Bergmann" writes: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, at 07:40, Kalle Valo wrote: >> Greg Kroah-Hartman writes: >> >> We (the wireless folks) have been talking about dropping legacy drivers >> on and off for several years now. The problem is that we don't know >> which of them work and which not, for example IIRC someone reported >> recently that wl3501 still works. >> >> Personally I would be extremly happy to remove all the ancient drivers >> as that reduces the amount of code for us to maintain but is that the >> right thing to do for the users? I don't have an answer to that, >> comments very welcome. > > I had a look at what openwrt enables, to see if any of the drivers > in my RFC patch are actually enabled, if anything supports legacy > embedded devices with these it would be openwrt. The good news here > is that openwrt intentionally leaves WEXT disabled, and none of them > are still in use. I don't think openwrt is a good metric in this case. These drivers are for 20+ years old hardware, most likely running on really old x86 laptops. So the chances of them running openwrt on those laptops is low and I would expect them to run more traditional distros like debian or ubuntu. But of course this is just guessing. -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel