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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 14:47:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sf6g2hc8.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231011080955.1beeb010@kernel.org> (Jakub Kicinski's message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:09:55 -0700")

Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:

> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:29:58 +0300 Kalle Valo wrote:
>> > No matter what the time frame is, it's never going to line up with all
>> > distros, or catch everyone properly.  
>> 
>> Yeah, that's true.
>> 
>> > I recommend, just delete all the ones you feel are not being used, in a
>> > patch that removes them one-by-one, so that it is trivial to revert if
>> > someone shows up and says "hey, my device stopped working!" a few years
>> > in the future.  
>> 
>> I'm starting to lean towards this as well. We have talked about this for
>> so long now but no practical solution ever found so maybe just bite the
>> bullet finally. What do others think?
>
> FWIW in Ethernet we do what Greg says. Delete it, if someone complains
> we revert back in. The revert did actually happen once, it was pretty
> painless (Greg even took it into stable tree, IIRC).

Thanks, good to know that you have had positive experiences with this
approach. As I didn't hear any concerns from anyone so I'm convinced we
should do this. I'm sure it will make my life a lot easier :)

Is anyone willing to submit patches? Use wireless-next as the baseline
for patches and one driver per commit, please. That way it's easy to
revert later, if needed (hopefully not).

-- 
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-12 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-10 15:27 [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10 16:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11  5:40   ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11  6:16     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11  7:29       ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 15:09         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-12 11:47           ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2023-10-12 14:36             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-12 14:48               ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-12 15:11                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:28               ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 15:39                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:41                   ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 16:36                     ` Geoff Levand
2023-10-13 15:44                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 18:02                         ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-18 20:37                           ` Jeff Johnson
2023-10-12 16:16               ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-12 16:18               ` Dan Williams
2023-10-11  7:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11  7:41       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11  8:44       ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11  9:01         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 18:13 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-11 20:22   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-12  6:23     ` Dan Carpenter
2023-10-13  6:42 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-13 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 16:24     ` Larry Finger
2023-10-15 18:42     ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-18 16:05       ` Arnd Bergmann

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