From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 14:47:03 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sf6g2hc8.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231011080955.1beeb010@kernel.org> (Jakub Kicinski's message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:09:55 -0700")
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:29:58 +0300 Kalle Valo wrote:
>> > No matter what the time frame is, it's never going to line up with all
>> > distros, or catch everyone properly.
>>
>> Yeah, that's true.
>>
>> > I recommend, just delete all the ones you feel are not being used, in a
>> > patch that removes them one-by-one, so that it is trivial to revert if
>> > someone shows up and says "hey, my device stopped working!" a few years
>> > in the future.
>>
>> I'm starting to lean towards this as well. We have talked about this for
>> so long now but no practical solution ever found so maybe just bite the
>> bullet finally. What do others think?
>
> FWIW in Ethernet we do what Greg says. Delete it, if someone complains
> we revert back in. The revert did actually happen once, it was pretty
> painless (Greg even took it into stable tree, IIRC).
Thanks, good to know that you have had positive experiences with this
approach. As I didn't hear any concerns from anyone so I'm convinced we
should do this. I'm sure it will make my life a lot easier :)
Is anyone willing to submit patches? Use wireless-next as the baseline
for patches and one driver per commit, please. That way it's easy to
revert later, if needed (hopefully not).
--
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-10 15:27 [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-10 16:08 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 5:40 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 6:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 7:29 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 15:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-12 11:47 ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2023-10-12 14:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-12 14:48 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-12 15:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:28 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 15:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-12 15:41 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-12 16:36 ` Geoff Levand
2023-10-13 15:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 18:02 ` Johannes Berg
2023-10-18 20:37 ` Jeff Johnson
2023-10-12 16:16 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-12 16:18 ` Dan Williams
2023-10-11 7:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 7:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-10-11 8:44 ` Kalle Valo
2023-10-11 9:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-11 18:13 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-11 20:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-12 6:23 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-10-13 6:42 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-13 15:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-10-13 16:24 ` Larry Finger
2023-10-15 18:42 ` Philipp Hortmann
2023-10-18 16:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
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