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Miller" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Larry Finger Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org Jakub Kicinski writes: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:29:58 +0300 Kalle Valo wrote: >> > No matter what the time frame is, it's never going to line up with all >> > distros, or catch everyone properly. >> >> Yeah, that's true. >> >> > I recommend, just delete all the ones you feel are not being used, in a >> > patch that removes them one-by-one, so that it is trivial to revert if >> > someone shows up and says "hey, my device stopped working!" a few years >> > in the future. >> >> I'm starting to lean towards this as well. We have talked about this for >> so long now but no practical solution ever found so maybe just bite the >> bullet finally. What do others think? > > FWIW in Ethernet we do what Greg says. Delete it, if someone complains > we revert back in. The revert did actually happen once, it was pretty > painless (Greg even took it into stable tree, IIRC). Thanks, good to know that you have had positive experiences with this approach. As I didn't hear any concerns from anyone so I'm convinced we should do this. I'm sure it will make my life a lot easier :) Is anyone willing to submit patches? Use wireless-next as the baseline for patches and one driver per commit, please. That way it's easy to revert later, if needed (hopefully not). -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel