From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: "Okanovic, Haris" <harisokn@amazon.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 01/11] cpuidle/poll_state: poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed()
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 10:04:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wmi8ou7g.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f7ffdcdb79eee0e8a545f544120495477832cd5.camel@amazon.com>
Okanovic, Haris <harisokn@amazon.com> writes:
> On Tue, 2024-10-15 at 13:04 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 04:24:15PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
>> > diff --git a/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c b/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
>> > index 9b6d90a72601..fc1204426158 100644
>> > --- a/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
>> > +++ b/drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c
>> > @@ -21,21 +21,20 @@ static int __cpuidle poll_idle(struct cpuidle_device *dev,
>> >
>> > raw_local_irq_enable();
>> > if (!current_set_polling_and_test()) {
>> > - unsigned int loop_count = 0;
>> > u64 limit;
>> >
>> > limit = cpuidle_poll_time(drv, dev);
>> >
>> > while (!need_resched()) {
>> > - cpu_relax();
>> > - if (loop_count++ < POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT)
>> > - continue;
>> > -
>> > - loop_count = 0;
>> > + unsigned int loop_count = 0;
>> > if (local_clock_noinstr() - time_start > limit) {
>> > dev->poll_time_limit = true;
>> > break;
>> > }
>> > +
>> > + smp_cond_load_relaxed(¤t_thread_info()->flags,
>> > + VAL & _TIF_NEED_RESCHED ||
>> > + loop_count++ >= POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT);
>>
>> The above is not guaranteed to make progress if _TIF_NEED_RESCHED is
>> never set. With the event stream enabled on arm64, the WFE will
>> eventually be woken up, loop_count incremented and the condition would
>> become true. However, the smp_cond_load_relaxed() semantics require that
>> a different agent updates the variable being waited on, not the waiting
>> CPU updating it itself. Also note that the event stream can be disabled
>> on arm64 on the kernel command line.
>
> Alternately could we condition arch_haltpoll_want() on
> arch_timer_evtstrm_available(), like v7?
Yes, I'm thinking of staging it somewhat like that. First an
smp_cond_load_relaxed() which gets rid of this issue, followed by
one based on smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout().
That said, conditioning just arch_haltpoll_want() won't suffice since
what Catalin pointed out affects all users of poll_idle(), not just
haltpoll.
Right now there's only haltpoll but there are future users like
zhenglifeng with a patch for acpi-idle here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/f8a1f85b-c4bf-4c38-81bf-728f72a4f2fe@huawei.com/
>> Does the code above break any other architecture? I'd say if you want
>> something like this, better introduce a new smp_cond_load_timeout()
>> API. The above looks like a hack that may only work on arm64 when the
>> event stream is enabled.
>>
>> A generic option is udelay() (on arm64 it would use WFE/WFET by
>> default). Not sure how important it is for poll_idle() but the downside
>> of udelay() that it won't be able to also poll need_resched() while
>> waiting for the timeout. If this matters, you could instead make smaller
>> udelay() calls. Yet another problem, I don't know how energy efficient
>> udelay() is on x86 vs cpu_relax().
>>
>> So maybe an smp_cond_load_timeout() would be better, implemented with
>> cpu_relax() generically and the arm64 would use LDXR, WFE and rely on
>> the event stream (or fall back to cpu_relax() if the event stream is
>> disabled).
>>
>> --
>> Catalin
--
ankur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-16 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-25 23:24 [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] cpuidle/poll_state: poll via smp_cond_load_relaxed() Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 12:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 16:42 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 16:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 17:17 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 17:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-15 21:53 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 22:28 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-16 7:06 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17 16:54 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-17 18:36 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 22:40 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-16 9:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 16:56 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-17 18:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 19:34 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-15 21:32 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16 6:20 ` maobibo
2024-10-16 10:06 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-16 15:13 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-16 17:04 ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2024-10-16 18:04 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-17 14:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 22:47 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 11:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-18 19:00 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-21 12:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] cpuidle: rename ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX to ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] Kconfig: move ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL to arch/Kconfig Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] cpuidle-haltpoll: define arch_haltpoll_want() Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] governors/haltpoll: drop kvm_para_available() check Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] cpuidle-haltpoll: condition on ARCH_CPUIDLE_HALTPOLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] arm64: define TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] arm64: idle: export arch_cpu_idle Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] arm64: select ARCH_HAS_OPTIMIZED_POLL Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] cpuidle/poll_state: limit POLL_IDLE_RELAX_COUNT on arm64 Ankur Arora
2024-09-25 23:24 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] arm64: support cpuidle-haltpoll Ankur Arora
2024-10-02 22:42 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-03 3:29 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-16 15:13 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-10-09 2:37 ` [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 zhenglifeng (A)
2024-10-15 1:53 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-14 22:54 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-10-15 12:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-16 21:55 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17 8:19 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-17 18:35 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22 22:01 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-05 18:30 ` Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 18:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] asm-generic: add smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:36 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:06 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 18:13 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 19:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 20:31 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:39 ` Will Deacon
2024-11-06 17:18 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-05 18:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] arm64: add __READ_ONCE_EX() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:39 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:37 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 11:43 ` Will Deacon
2024-11-06 17:09 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-09 9:49 ` David Laight
2024-11-05 18:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] arm64: refactor delay() to enable polling for value Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:42 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-06 17:42 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-06 9:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-11-06 17:38 ` Okanovic, Haris
2024-11-05 18:30 ` [PATCH 4/5] arm64: add smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 18:30 ` [PATCH 5/5] cpuidle: implement poll_idle() using smp_vcond_load_relaxed() Haris Okanovic
2024-11-05 19:45 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-11-05 18:49 ` [PATCH v8 00/11] Enable haltpoll on arm64 Ankur Arora
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