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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com,
	willy@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/12] mm: Remove redundant pXd_devmap calls
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 14:21:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <897590f7-99a5-4053-8566-76623b929c7c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250605120909.GA44681@ziepe.ca>

On 05.06.25 14:09, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 07:35:24PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> 
>> If all dax pages are special, then vm_normal_page() should never find
>> them and gup should fail.
>>
>> ...oh, but vm_normal_page_p[mu]d() is not used in the gup path, and
>> 'special' is not set in the pte path.
> 
> That seems really suboptimal?? Why would pmd and pte be different?
> 
>> I think for any p[mu]d where p[mu]d_page() is ok to use should never set
>> 'special', right?
> 
> There should be dedicated functions for installing pages and PFNs,
> only the PFN one would set the special bit.
> 
> And certainly your tests *should* be failing as special entries should
> never ever be converted to struct page.

Worth reviewing [1] where I clean that up and describe the current 
impact. ;)

What's even worse about this pte_devmap()/pmd_devmap()/... shit (sorry! 
but it's absolute shit) is that some pte_mkdev() set the pte special, 
while others ... don't.

E.g., loongarch

static inline pte_t pte_mkdevmap(pte_t pte)	{ pte_val(pte) |= 
_PAGE_DEVMAP; return pte; }

I don't even know how it can (could) survive vm_normal_page().


Of course, a wild (and different) mixture on pmd_mkdevmap() as well.

So happy to see that go away.

[1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20250603211634.2925015-1-david@redhat.com

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-05 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-29  6:32 [PATCH 00/12] mm: Remove pXX_devmap page table bit and pfn_t type Alistair Popple
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 01/12] mm: Remove PFN_MAP, PFN_SG_CHAIN and PFN_SG_LAST Alistair Popple
2025-05-29 11:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-04  3:22     ` Alistair Popple
2025-05-30  9:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-02  4:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-04  3:23     ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04 21:05   ` Dan Williams
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 02/12] mm: Convert pXd_devmap checks to vma_is_dax Alistair Popple
2025-05-30  9:37   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-12  6:55     ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  1:37   ` Dan Williams
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 03/12] mm/pagewalk: Skip dax pages in pagewalk Alistair Popple
2025-05-30  9:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 13:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  1:59   ` Dan Williams
2025-06-05  7:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-05  7:49       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05 16:21         ` Dan Williams
2025-06-12  7:02           ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-12  8:47             ` Alistair Popple
2025-06-12 14:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-12 22:50     ` Alistair Popple
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 04/12] mm: Convert vmf_insert_mixed() from using pte_devmap to pte_special Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  2:02   ` Dan Williams
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 05/12] mm: Remove remaining uses of PFN_DEV Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  2:02   ` Dan Williams
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 06/12] mm/gup: Remove pXX_devmap usage from get_user_pages() Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  2:04   ` Dan Williams
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 07/12] mm: Remove redundant pXd_devmap calls Alistair Popple
2025-05-29 11:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-02  9:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-02 12:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 13:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05  2:35   ` Dan Williams
2025-06-05 12:09     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05 12:21       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-05 16:30         ` Dan Williams
2025-06-05 17:04           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05 16:22       ` Dan Williams
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 08/12] mm/khugepaged: Remove redundant pmd_devmap() check Alistair Popple
2025-06-02 11:45   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-03 13:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 09/12] powerpc: Remove checks for devmap pages and PMDs/PUDs Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 10/12] mm: Remove devmap related functions and page table bits Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 11/12] mm: Remove callers of pfn_t functionality Alistair Popple
2025-06-02  4:44   ` Michael Kelley
2025-06-03 13:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29  6:32 ` [PATCH 12/12] mm/memremap: Remove unused devmap_managed_key Alistair Popple
2025-06-03 13:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-02 10:31 ` [PATCH 00/12] mm: Remove pXX_devmap page table bit and pfn_t type David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05  1:39 ` Dan Williams

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