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From: ashwinc@codeaurora.org (ashwinc at codeaurora.org)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v5 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:13:58 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8fc9550c96a468b3e50d51a37db68a33.squirrel@www.codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ5Y-eZ5cu9_OhG24yAv+CZq7zKg0vU+eVGekyN+9dDzaz1OhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Hanjun,

Overall the document looks good to us. Some minor clarifications below.

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@linaro.org>
>
> Add documentation for the guidelines of how to use ACPI
> on ARM64.
>
> Signed-off-by: Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@linaro.org>
> Signed-off-by: Al Stone <al.stone@linaro.org>
> Signed-off-by: Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>
> ---
>  Documentation/arm64/arm-acpi.txt |  323
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 323 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/arm64/arm-acpi.txt
>

[..]

> +Relationship with Device Tree
> +-----------------------------

[..]

> +When booting using ACPI tables, the /chosen node in DT will still be
> parsed
> +to extract the kernel command line and initrd path.  No other section of
> the
> +DT will be used.

Is this still true?


> +Programmable Power Control Resources
> +------------------------------------
> +Programmable power control resources include such resources as
> voltage/current
> +providers (regulators) and clock sources.
> +
> +The kernel assumes that power control of these resources is represented
> with
> +Power Resource Objects (ACPI section 7.1).  The ACPI core will then
> handle
> +correctly enabling and disabling resources as they are needed.  In order
> to
> +get that to work, ACPI assumes each device has defined D-states and that
> these
> +can be controlled through the optional ACPI methods _PS0, _PS1, _PS2, and
> _PS3;
> +in ACPI, _PS0 is the method to invoke to turn a device full on, and _PS3
> is for
> +turning a device full off.
> +
> +The kernel ACPI code will also assume that the _PS? methods follow the
> normal
> +ACPI rules for such methods:
> +
> +   -- If either _PS0 or _PS3 is implemented, then the other method must
> also
> +      be implemented.
> +
> +   -- If a device requires usage or setup of a power resource when on,
> the ASL
> +      should organize that it is allocated/enabled using the _PS0 method.
> +
> +   -- Resources allocated or enabled in the _PS0 method should be
> disabled
> +      or de-allocated in the _PS3 method.
> +
> +   -- Firmware will leave the resources in a reasonable state before
> handing
> +      over control to the kernel.
> +

We found this section could be improved a bit by explicitly calling out
the options for handling device PM. Platform vendor has two choices.
Resources can be managed in _PSx routine which gets called on entry to Dx.
 Or they can be declared separately as power resources with their own _ON
and _OFF methods.  They are then tied back to D-states for a particular
device via _PRx which specifies which power resources a device needs to be
on while in Dx.  Kernel then tracks number of devices using a power
resource and calls _ON/_OFF as needed.

> +Such code in _PS? methods will of course be very platform specific.  But,
> +this allows the driver to abstract out the interface for operating the
> device
> +and avoid having to read special non-standard values from ACPI tables.
> Further,
> +abstracting the use of these resources allows the hardware to change over
> time
> +without requiring updates to the driver.
> +

I think its been mentioned in the past and you planned to add it here: we
should explicitly state that with ACPI, the kernel clock/vreg framework
are not expected to be used at all.

> +
> +Clocks
> +------
> +ACPI makes the assumption that clocks are initialized by the firmware --
> +UEFI, in this case -- to some working value before control is handed over
> +to the kernel.  This has implications for devices such as UARTs, or SoC
> +driven LCD displays, for example.
> +
> +When the kernel boots, the clock is assumed to be set to reasonable
> +working value.  If for some reason the frequency needs to change -- e.g.,
> +throttling for power management -- the device driver should expect that
> +process to be abstracted out into some ACPI method that can be invoked

Exception to this is CPU clocks where CPPC provides a much richer
interface than just blindly invoking some method.

> +(please see the ACPI specification for further recommendations on
> standard
> +methods to be expected).  If is not, there is no direct way for ACPI to
> +control the clocks.
> +
> +

[..]

> +ASWG
> +----
> +The following areas are not yet fully defined for ARM in the 5.1 version
> +of the ACPI specification and are expected to be worked through in the
> +UEFI ACPI Specification Working Group (ASWG):
> +
> +   -- ACPI based CPU topology
> +   -- ACPI based Power management

Should clarify this to idle management rather than generic power management.

> +   -- CPU idle control based on PSCI
> +   -- CPU performance control (CPPC)

There is no ongoing work on CPPC. Additional enhancements may be explored
in the future, but spec is viable as is.

Regards,
Ashwin

--
Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum,
a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project

--

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-30 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-17 13:36 [PATCH v5 00/18] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:36 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] ARM64: Move the init of cpu_logical_map(0) before unflatten_device_tree() Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 13:45   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 16:43     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-18 16:57       ` Will Deacon
2014-11-18 17:02         ` Sudeep Holla
2014-11-18 17:03           ` Will Deacon
2014-11-19  0:29             ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:36 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] ACPI / table: Add new function to get table entries Hanjun Guo
2014-11-24  1:27   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24 11:03     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-24 14:51       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-25  3:38         ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-25 21:20           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-26  1:42             ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:36 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] ACPI / table: Count matched and successfully parsed entries without specifying max entries Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 13:51   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 20:15     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-19  0:34       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-24  1:45   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24  8:34     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-11-24 15:16       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24 15:01         ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-11-24 15:37           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24 15:18             ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Get RSDP and ACPI boot-time tables Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce sleep-arm.c Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce early_param for "acpi" and pass acpi=force to enable ACPI Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] ARM64 / ACPI: If we chose to boot from acpi then disable FDT Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Make PCI optional for ACPI on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse FADT table to get PSCI flags for PSCI init Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] ACPI / table: Print GIC information when MADT is parsed Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse MADT for SMP initialization Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] ACPI / processor: Make it possible to get CPU hardware ID via GICC Hanjun Guo
2014-10-24 17:39   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-10-27  9:58     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-29 10:43       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-10-30  8:27         ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-29 21:33       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-30  8:30         ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce ACPI_IRQ_MODEL_GIC and register device's gsi Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Add GICv2 specific ACPI boot support Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse GTDT to initialize arch timer Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Select ACPI_REDUCED_HARDWARE_ONLY if ACPI is enabled on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-12-18 20:01   ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2014-12-19 13:04     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-12-18 20:04   ` Timur Tabi
2014-12-19 13:53     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-12-24 17:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-24 19:33     ` Jon Masters
2014-12-26 13:23     ` Mark Brown
2014-12-30 11:23     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-05 13:13       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-05 20:16         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 11:20           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 13:51             ` G Gregory
2015-01-06 14:03               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 13:59             ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 14:11               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 19:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 14:10               ` Grant Likely
2015-01-15 15:51                 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-15 16:52                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 17:22                     ` Al Stone
2015-01-16 16:35                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 18:00                     ` Mark Brown
2015-01-06 16:24             ` Jon Masters
2015-01-06 19:21               ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 22:06                 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07  4:55                   ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 10:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-07 11:50                       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 13:06                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-07 17:27                           ` Mark Brown
2015-01-07 17:44                             ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 19:48                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-07 20:05                                 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-07 20:14                                   ` Jon Masters
2015-01-09 10:33                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-09 10:55                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-09 15:13                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:41                             ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-07 19:58                               ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 20:05                                 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 22:59                                   ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-08 11:26                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-08 19:59                                       ` Kangkang Shen
2015-01-07 21:40                                 ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-07 22:10                                   ` Jon Masters
2015-01-04  9:39     ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-05 11:05       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 11:11         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-06 11:29           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 13:50             ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-06 13:54               ` G Gregory
2015-01-06 13:59                 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-06 14:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 14:16               ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 14:37                 ` Charles Garcia-Tobin
2015-01-06 16:37                 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-09 23:12                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]   ` <CAJ5Y-eZ5cu9_OhG24yAv+CZq7zKg0vU+eVGekyN+9dDzaz1OhQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-12-30 20:13     ` ashwinc at codeaurora.org [this message]
2014-12-31  8:34       ` Hanjun Guo
2014-12-31 15:08         ` ashwinc at codeaurora.org
2015-01-01 20:04         ` Graeme Gregory
2015-01-02  9:28           ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-02 16:47             ` Catalin Marinas

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