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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: 21cnbao@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, chrisl@kernel.org,
	kasong@tencent.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, v-songbaohua@oppo.com, x86@kernel.org,
	ying.huang@intel.com, zhengtangquan@oppo.com,
	Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] mm: Support batched unmap for lazyfree large folios during reclamation
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 18:47:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <938c4726-b93e-46df-bceb-65c7574714a6@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <27d174e0-c209-4851-825a-0baeb56df86f@redhat.com>



On 2025/6/25 18:00, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 24.06.25 18:25, Lance Yang wrote:
>> On 2025/6/24 23:34, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 24.06.25 17:26, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>> On 2025/6/24 20:55, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> On 14.02.25 10:30, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> index 89e51a7a9509..8786704bd466 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> @@ -1781,6 +1781,25 @@ void folio_remove_rmap_pud(struct folio 
>>>>>> *folio,
>>>>>> struct page *page,
>>>>>>     #endif
>>>>>>     }
>>>>>> +/* We support batch unmapping of PTEs for lazyfree large folios */
>>>>>> +static inline bool can_batch_unmap_folio_ptes(unsigned long addr,
>>>>>> +            struct folio *folio, pte_t *ptep)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +    const fpb_t fpb_flags = FPB_IGNORE_DIRTY | 
>>>>>> FPB_IGNORE_SOFT_DIRTY;
>>>>>> +    int max_nr = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's assume we have the first page of a folio mapped at the last page
>>>>> table entry in our page table.
>>>>
>>>> Good point. I'm curious if it is something we've seen in practice ;)
>>>
>>> I challenge you to write a reproducer :P I assume it might be doable
>>> through simple mremap().
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What prevents folio_pte_batch() from reading outside the page table?
>>>>
>>>> Assuming such a scenario is possible, to prevent any chance of an
>>>> out-of-bounds read, how about this change:
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>>> index fb63d9256f09..9aeae811a38b 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>>> @@ -1852,6 +1852,25 @@ static inline bool
>>>> can_batch_unmap_folio_ptes(unsigned long addr,
>>>>        const fpb_t fpb_flags = FPB_IGNORE_DIRTY | 
>>>> FPB_IGNORE_SOFT_DIRTY;
>>>>        int max_nr = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>>>        pte_t pte = ptep_get(ptep);
>>>> +    unsigned long end_addr;
>>>> +
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * To batch unmap, the entire folio's PTEs must be contiguous
>>>> +     * and mapped within the same PTE page table, which corresponds to
>>>> +     * a single PMD entry. Before calling folio_pte_batch(), which 
>>>> does
>>>> +     * not perform boundary checks itself, we must verify that the
>>>> +     * address range covered by the folio does not cross a PMD 
>>>> boundary.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    end_addr = addr + (max_nr * PAGE_SIZE) - 1;
>>>> +
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * A fast way to check for a PMD boundary cross is to align both
>>>> +     * the start and end addresses to the PMD boundary and see if they
>>>> +     * are different. If they are, the range spans across at least two
>>>> +     * different PMD-managed regions.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    if ((addr & PMD_MASK) != (end_addr & PMD_MASK))
>>>> +        return false;
>>>
>>> You should not be messing with max_nr = folio_nr_pages(folio) here at
>>> all. folio_pte_batch() takes care of that.
>>>
>>> Also, way too many comments ;)
>>>
>>> You may only batch within a single VMA and within a single page table.
>>>
>>> So simply align the addr up to the next PMD, and make sure it does not
>>> exceed the vma end.
>>>
>>> ALIGN and friends can help avoiding excessive comments.
>>
>> Thanks! How about this updated version based on your suggestion:
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>> index fb63d9256f09..241d55a92a47 100644
>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>> @@ -1847,12 +1847,25 @@ void folio_remove_rmap_pud(struct folio 
>> *folio, struct page *page,
>>   /* We support batch unmapping of PTEs for lazyfree large folios */
>>   static inline bool can_batch_unmap_folio_ptes(unsigned long addr,
>> -            struct folio *folio, pte_t *ptep)
>> +                          struct folio *folio, pte_t *ptep,
>> +                          struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>>   {
>>       const fpb_t fpb_flags = FPB_IGNORE_DIRTY | FPB_IGNORE_SOFT_DIRTY;
>> +    unsigned long next_pmd, vma_end, end_addr;
>>       int max_nr = folio_nr_pages(folio);
>>       pte_t pte = ptep_get(ptep);
>> +    /*
>> +     * Limit the batch scan within a single VMA and within a single
>> +     * page table.
>> +     */
>> +    vma_end = vma->vm_end;
>> +    next_pmd = ALIGN(addr + 1, PMD_SIZE);
>> +    end_addr = addr + (unsigned long)max_nr * PAGE_SIZE;
>> +
>> +    if (end_addr > min(next_pmd, vma_end))
>> +        return false;
> 
> May I suggest that we clean all that up as we fix it?

Yeah, that looks much better. Thanks for the suggestion!

> 
> Maybe something like this:
> 
> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
> index 3b74bb19c11dd..11fbddc6ad8d6 100644
> --- a/mm/rmap.c
> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
> @@ -1845,23 +1845,38 @@ void folio_remove_rmap_pud(struct folio *folio, 
> struct page *page,
>   #endif
>   }
> 
> -/* We support batch unmapping of PTEs for lazyfree large folios */
> -static inline bool can_batch_unmap_folio_ptes(unsigned long addr,
> -                       struct folio *folio, pte_t *ptep)
> +static inline unsigned int folio_unmap_pte_batch(struct folio *folio,
> +               struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw, enum ttu_flags flags,
> +               pte_t pte)
>   {
>          const fpb_t fpb_flags = FPB_IGNORE_DIRTY | FPB_IGNORE_SOFT_DIRTY;
> -       int max_nr = folio_nr_pages(folio);
> -       pte_t pte = ptep_get(ptep);
> +       struct vm_area_struct *vma = pvmw->vma;
> +       unsigned long end_addr, addr = pvmw->address;
> +       unsigned int max_nr;
> +
> +       if (flags & TTU_HWPOISON)
> +               return 1;
> +       if (!folio_test_large(folio))
> +               return 1;
> +
> +       /* We may only batch within a single VMA and a single page 
> table. */
> +       end_addr = min_t(unsigned long, ALIGN(addr + 1, PMD_SIZE), vma- 
>  >vm_end);
> +       max_nr = (end_addr - addr) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> 
> +       /* We only support lazyfree batching for now ... */
>          if (!folio_test_anon(folio) || folio_test_swapbacked(folio))
> -               return false;
> +               return 1;
>          if (pte_unused(pte))
> -               return false;
> -       if (pte_pfn(pte) != folio_pfn(folio))
> -               return false;
> +               return 1;
> +       /* ... where we must be able to batch the whole folio. */
> +       if (pte_pfn(pte) != folio_pfn(folio) || max_nr != 
> folio_nr_pages(folio))
> +               return 1;
> +       max_nr = folio_pte_batch(folio, addr, pvmw->pte, pte, max_nr, 
> fpb_flags,
> +                                NULL, NULL, NULL);
> 
> -       return folio_pte_batch(folio, addr, ptep, pte, max_nr, 
> fpb_flags, NULL,
> -                              NULL, NULL) == max_nr;
> +       if (max_nr != folio_nr_pages(folio))
> +               return 1;
> +       return max_nr;
>   }
> 
>   /*
> @@ -2024,9 +2039,7 @@ static bool try_to_unmap_one(struct folio *folio, 
> struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>                          if (pte_dirty(pteval))
>                                  folio_mark_dirty(folio);
>                  } else if (likely(pte_present(pteval))) {
> -                       if (folio_test_large(folio) && !(flags & 
> TTU_HWPOISON) &&
> -                           can_batch_unmap_folio_ptes(address, folio, 
> pvmw.pte))
> -                               nr_pages = folio_nr_pages(folio);
> +                       nr_pages = folio_unmap_pte_batch(folio, &pvmw, 
> flags, pteval);
>                          end_addr = address + nr_pages * PAGE_SIZE;
>                          flush_cache_range(vma, address, end_addr);
> 
> 
> Note that I don't quite understand why we have to batch the whole thing 
> or fallback to
> individual pages. Why can't we perform other batches that span only some 
> PTEs? What's special
> about 1 PTE vs. 2 PTEs vs. all PTEs?

That's a good point about the "all-or-nothing" batching logic ;)

It seems the "all-or-nothing" approach is specific to the lazyfree use
case, which needs to unmap the entire folio for reclamation. If that's
not possible, it falls back to the single-page slow path.

Also, supporting partial batches would be useful, but not common case
I guess, so let's leave it as is ;p

Thanks,
Lance

> 
> 
> Can someone enlighten me why that is required?
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-25 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-14  9:30 [PATCH v4 0/4] mm: batched unmap lazyfree large folios during reclamation Barry Song
2025-02-14  9:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] mm: Set folio swapbacked iff folios are dirty in try_to_unmap_one Barry Song
2025-02-14  9:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] mm: Support tlbbatch flush for a range of PTEs Barry Song
2025-02-14  9:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] mm: Support batched unmap for lazyfree large folios during reclamation Barry Song
2025-06-24 12:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-24 15:26     ` Lance Yang
2025-06-24 15:34       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-24 16:25         ` Lance Yang
2025-06-25  9:38           ` Barry Song
2025-06-25 10:00           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 10:38             ` Barry Song
2025-06-25 10:43               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 10:49                 ` Barry Song
2025-06-25 10:59                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 10:47             ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-06-25 10:49               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 10:57               ` Barry Song
2025-06-25 11:01                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 11:15                   ` Barry Song
2025-06-25 11:27                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 11:42                       ` Barry Song
2025-06-25 12:09                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 12:20                           ` Lance Yang
2025-06-25 12:25                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 12:35                               ` Lance Yang
2025-06-25 21:03                               ` Barry Song
2025-06-26  1:17                                 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-26  8:17                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-26  9:29                                     ` Lance Yang
2025-06-26 12:44                                       ` Lance Yang
2025-06-26 13:16                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-26 13:52                                           ` Lance Yang
2025-06-26 14:39                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-26 15:06                                               ` Lance Yang
2025-06-26 21:46                                       ` Barry Song
2025-06-26 21:52                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 12:58                           ` Lance Yang
2025-06-25 13:02                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25  8:44         ` Lance Yang
2025-06-25  9:29           ` Lance Yang
2025-07-01 10:03   ` Harry Yoo
2025-07-01 13:27     ` Harry Yoo
2025-07-01 16:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-14  9:30 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: Avoid splitting pmd for lazyfree pmd-mapped THP in try_to_unmap Barry Song
2025-06-25 13:49 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] mm: batched unmap lazyfree large folios during reclamation Lorenzo Stoakes

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