From: grant.likely@secretlab.ca (Grant Likely)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Request review of device tree documentation
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:08:16 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikH6AHQZse6YX6EzT3H3MKQzob_J04my5mLWW0V@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1006141044510.13427@xanadu.home>
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, David Gibson wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:02:15PM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
>> Indeed. ?In fact, the general rule of thumb is really "put as much as
>> possible into the most easily replaced layer of the stack". ?This is,
>> incidentally, why I've always been dubious about simple firmwares
>> supplying a flattened device tree rather than including the device
>> tree template in the kernel, cuboot style.
>
> The biggest advantage, IMHO, for adding DT to ARM, is actually to
> decouple the hardware config information and the kernel. ?If in the end
> the DT has to be shipped in the kernel then we're losing all this
> advantage over the current state of things on ARM which still works
> pretty well otherwise.
>
> In the best case, the simple firmware simply has to retrieve the
> flattened device tree from flash, and pass it to the kernel just like
> some anonymous blob. ?And the simple firmware only needs to provide a
> way for that DT blob to be updatable, like through an upload of a
> replacement blob that was prepared offline. ?Just like a ramdisk image
> or the like.
>
> That doesn't need to be fancier than that, and the goal of having the DT
> data tied to the hardware instead of the kernel is achieved.
exactly right.
g.
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2010-06-14 5:02 ` Request review of device tree documentation Grant Likely
2010-06-14 12:44 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 14:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:08 ` Grant Likely [this message]
2010-06-14 16:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:28 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 17:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 18:20 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 19:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2010-06-16 6:09 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:13 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:17 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:32 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 7:40 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 9:45 ` Vladimir Pantelic
2010-06-16 10:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 11:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 13:48 ` Jamie Bennett
2010-06-16 14:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-16 17:43 ` Tim Bird
2010-06-17 6:45 ` Benjamin Zores
2010-06-16 6:52 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-18 22:12 ` Frank Rowand
2010-06-15 2:02 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 15:51 ` M. Warner Losh
[not found] ` <1276408773.1962.574.camel@pasglop>
2010-06-14 5:23 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 7:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 7:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 9:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 9:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 13:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:35 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 15:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:16 ` Grant Likely
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[not found] ` <1276417792.1962.731.camel@pasglop>
2010-06-14 5:36 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 20:00 ` Ben Dooks
[not found] ` <1276408087.1962.552.camel@pasglop>
2010-06-14 5:13 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 6:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 6:17 ` Mitch Bradley
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