From: ccross@google.com (Colin Cross)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC] clk: add support for automatic parent handling
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:23:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikU9RLy9VR+tOPMt0u6zJp-bW5_Cw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1104211632240.3323@ionos>
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> That brings in another question and this really needs to be answered
> now: Locking
>
> I'm pushing hard on this because I know that retrofitting proper
> locking schemes is going to be a nightmare.
>
> You already have a lock nesting problem when you do parent
> propagation. With your code you do the parent propagation in the child
> callback under the prepare_mutex or the enable_lock.
>
> This is going to end up in lockdep being quite unhappy unless you want
> tons of different lock classes for this stuff. i.e.
>
> ? ? clk_prepare(clk2)
> ? ? ? ?mutex_lock(clk2->mutex);
> ? ? ? ? ? clk->prepare(clk);
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?clk_prepare(clk1)
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?mutex_lock(clk1->mutex);
>
> And you _CANNOT_ call clk1->prepare() from your clk2 prepare function
> as it would forgo the serialization and the prepare refcounting. And
> this kind of scheme is going to be even more problematic if you do
> bottom up propagation because you will run into lock inversion.
>
> I seriously doubt that the fine grained per clock locking is going to
> work out at all.
>
> How do you protect changes to the tree hierarchy against a traversal
> of a concurrent clk->prepare... propagation? Not at all, because you
> CANNOT. And you cannot use RCU for this either.
>
> So what's the point of the per clk locks? I can't see one at all.
>
> All those callbacks are not high frequency called functions, so if you
> want to make this a true framework which deals with tons of
> interesting stuff like propagation, reparenting and rate changes from
> bottom up then there is only one way to do that: global serialization.
>
> There is no way around that. Everything else is going to be the
> locking hell and racy all over the place.
Per clock locks are useful if you have some very slow clocks and some
very fast clocks. PLLs may take 20 ms to lock, and preventing any
other call to clk_prepare for that long could be problematic. The
problem was worse before the clk_enable/clk_prepare split, maybe it's
not necessary at all any more.
For Tegra, I solved my clock locking problems by (almost) always
locking from child to parent, the normal case for
clk_enable/clk_prepare. In general, you only need to lock parent and
then child if you store the rate of the child in the child's clk
struct and need to update it when the parent changes, or when
traversing the tree for debugging output. I solved the first problem
by storing the relation between the child and the parent in the child
struct and locking from child to parent on clk_get_rate calls to
calculate the rate, and the second by using a trylock loop over the
list of clocks (see arch/arm/mach-tegra/clock.c).
Now that clk_prepare and clk_enable are split, the long-held locks
(for plls, maybe dvfs?) are separated from the short-held locks for
clk_enable/clk_disable, and the cost of global serialization is much
more acceptable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-22 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-15 19:08 [RFC] sanitizing crazy clock data files Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 01/10] Add a common struct clk Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 19:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 0:28 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-22 9:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-23 14:08 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-23 15:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-24 2:54 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-24 7:20 ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-24 9:55 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-22 4:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22 9:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 10:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-29 11:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-30 18:30 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-30 8:06 ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-30 9:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-30 16:30 ` Linus Walleij
2011-05-01 20:33 ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02 1:09 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-05-02 3:09 ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02 3:40 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-05-02 16:30 ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02 22:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-03 0:22 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-04 6:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-05-04 18:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-04 23:35 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-05-10 20:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-02 16:55 ` David Brown
2011-05-02 17:31 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 02/10] clk: Generic support for fixed-rate clocks Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/10] clk: Make NULL a valid clock again Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 0:53 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-19 6:25 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-20 12:53 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/10] clk: implement parent pass through functions Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 9:25 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 9:48 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 17:20 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-19 17:53 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 19:09 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-19 20:58 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 21:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 7:16 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 8:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 14:07 ` [PATCH RFC] clk: add support for automatic parent handling Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 16:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 18:59 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 19:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 6:58 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 10:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 19:22 ` torbenh
2011-04-23 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-21 7:22 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-21 9:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 10:31 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 11:42 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-21 14:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 7:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-22 8:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 14:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 11:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 11:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 12:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 13:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 15:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 22:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 22:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-30 14:27 ` torbenh
2011-05-03 6:35 ` Colin Cross
2011-05-05 8:35 ` torbenh
2011-05-03 2:44 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-03 2:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 10:13 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 11:39 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-21 7:42 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 9:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 11:50 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 12:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 12:35 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-25 2:03 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 10:57 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-25 14:41 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 14:44 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-29 10:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 11:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 11:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 12:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 13:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 15:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 12:06 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 15:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 0:23 ` Colin Cross [this message]
2011-04-22 9:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 16:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 16:39 ` Colin Cross
2011-04-22 16:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 22:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22 22:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-23 0:48 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-23 23:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-22 4:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22 9:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 10:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-24 9:45 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-24 20:14 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-29 10:20 ` [PATCH 04/10] clk: implement parent pass through functions Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/10] clk: Add support for simple dividers Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 9:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 10:07 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 2:45 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-19 7:32 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-19 8:55 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-19 9:31 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 22:28 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-20 6:36 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-20 21:45 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 7:39 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-28 15:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-03 3:37 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-03 7:12 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-28 15:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02 7:58 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 22:40 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-19 0:32 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-19 5:41 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-24 13:48 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 18:51 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-26 1:54 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/10] clk: Add support for a generic clock multiplexer Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 13:15 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 13:33 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 13:54 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 17:54 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-18 18:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-18 18:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-18 18:46 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/10] ARM i.MX: Support for clock building blocks Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/10] ARM i.MX: Add generic support for pllv2 Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/10] ARM i.MX51/53: reimplement clock support Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/10] ARM i.MX51/53: remove old " Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:36 ` [RFC] sanitizing crazy clock data files Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:12 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 20:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 4:07 ` Shawn Guo
2011-04-15 20:45 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 7:42 ` Sascha Hauer
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