From: zach.pfeffer@linaro.org (Zach Pfeffer)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-mm-sig] [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:52:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTim5umALqafjA2e88UCLzMp9LQu3_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110421130930.4be9e9e1@jbarnes-desktop>
> Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>
>> I think the recent discussions on linaro-mm-sig and the BoF last week
>> at ELC have been quite productive, and at least my understanding
>> of the missing pieces has improved quite a bit. This is a list of
>> things that I think need to be done in the kernel. Please complain
>> if any of these still seem controversial:
>>
>> 1. Fix the arm version of dma_alloc_coherent. It's in use today and
>> ? ?is broken on modern CPUs because it results in both cached and
>> ? ?uncached mappings. Rebecca suggested different approaches how to
>> ? ?get there.
>>
>> 2. Implement dma_alloc_noncoherent on ARM. Marek pointed out
>> ? ?that this is needed, and it currently is not implemented, with
>> ? ?an outdated comment explaining why it used to not be possible
>> ? ?to do it.
>>
>> 3. Convert ARM to use asm-generic/dma-mapping-common.h. We need
>> ? ?both IOMMU and direct mapped DMA on some machines.
>
> I don't think the DMA mapping and allocation APIs are sufficient for
> high performance graphics at least. ?It's fairly common to allocate a
> bunch of buffers necessary to render a scene, build up a command buffer
> that references them, then hand the whole thing off to the kernel to
> execute at once on the GPU. ?That allows for a lot of extra efficiency,
> since it allows you to batch the MMU binding until execution occurs (or
> even put it off entirely until the page is referenced by the GPU in the
> case of faulting support). ?It's also necessary to avoid livelocks
> between two clients trying to render; if mapping is incremental on both
> sides, it's possible that neither will be able to make forward
> progress due to IOMMU space exhaustion.
>
> So that argues for separating allocation from mapping both on the user
> side (which I think everyone agrees on) as well as on the kernel side,
> both for CPU access (which some drivers won't need) and for GPU access.
I agree with Jesse that the separation of mapping from allocation is
central to the current usage models. I realize most people didn't like
VCMM, but it provided an abstraction for this - if software can handle
the multiple mapper approach in a rational way across ARM than we can
solve a lot of problems with all the map and unmap current solutions
and we don't have to hack in coherency.
>
> --
> Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center
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2011-04-21 19:29 [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1 Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 20:09 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 21:52 ` Zach Pfeffer [this message]
2011-04-22 0:34 ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-26 14:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 15:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-27 7:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 8:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 9:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 11:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 16:16 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 17:44 ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 20:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 21:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 9:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:56 ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 22:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 12:06 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 13:34 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 22:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 10:51 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 21:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 6:40 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 6:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28 9:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:32 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 19:37 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 0:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 5:50 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 7:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 10:55 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 22:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 16:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 22:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-30 2:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 7:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 16:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 18:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02 4:42 ` David Brown
2011-05-02 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 13:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 14:19 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 15:37 ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-28 14:38 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-29 0:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 10:41 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 11:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:25 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:59 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:56 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 14:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 9:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 10:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 0:15 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2011-04-28 8:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 12:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 14:45 ` Dave Martin
2011-04-29 15:41 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 16:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-03 15:05 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 14:06 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:34 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 20:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 21:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 7:24 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28 8:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 9:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
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2011-05-03 14:35 [Linaro-mm-sig] " Laurent Pinchart
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