From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:42:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimJoc_DR3bjxehDFcTM13CavAX_=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201104291741.18190.arnd@arndb.de>
On Friday, 29 April 2011, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 April 2011, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> > >
>> > > It's not broken since we moved to using Normal non-cacheable memory
>> > > for the coherent DMA buffers (as long as you flush the cacheable alias
>> > > before using the buffer, as we already do). The ARM ARM currently says
>> > > unpredictable for such situations but this is being clarified in
>> > > future updates and the Normal non-cacheable vs cacheable aliases can
>> > > be used (given correct cache maintenance before using the buffer).
>> >
>> > Thanks for that information, I believe a number of people in the
>> > previous discussions were relying on the information from the
>> > documentation. Are you sure that this is not only correct for the
>> > cores made by ARM ltd but also for the other implementations that
>> > may have relied on documentation?
>>
>> It is a clarification in the ARM ARM so it covers all the cores made by
>> architecture licensees, not just ARM Ltd. It basically makes the
>> "unpredictable" part more predictable to allow certain types of aliases
>> (e.g. Strongly Ordered vs Normal memory would still be disallowed).
>>
>> All the current implementations are safe with Normal memory aliases
>> (cacheable vs non-cacheable) but of course, there may be some
>> performance benefits in not having any alias.
>
> A lot of the discussions we are about to have in Budapest will be
> around solving the problem of having only valid combinations of
> mappings, so we really need to have a clear statement in specification
> form about what is actually valid.
>
> Would it be possible to have an updated version of the relevant
> section of the ARM ARM by next week so we can use that as the
> base for our discussions?
I'll ask the architecture people here in ARM and get back to you
(there is holiday until Tuesday next week in the UK).
--
Catalin
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-21 19:29 [RFC] ARM DMA mapping TODO, v1 Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-21 20:09 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jesse Barnes
2011-04-21 21:52 ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-04-22 0:34 ` KyongHo Cho
2011-04-26 14:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 14:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-26 15:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-27 7:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 8:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 9:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 11:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 16:16 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Alex Deucher
2011-04-27 17:44 ` Anca Emanuel
2011-04-27 20:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 20:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 20:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 21:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 9:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 11:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:56 ` Alan Cox
2011-04-29 22:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 12:06 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 13:34 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 22:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 22:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-27 10:51 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-27 21:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 6:40 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 6:46 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-28 9:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:32 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Marek Szyprowski
2011-04-28 10:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 14:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 14:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 19:37 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 0:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 5:50 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 7:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 10:55 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-04-29 22:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 16:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 22:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-30 2:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 7:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 16:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2011-04-29 18:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02 4:42 ` David Brown
2011-05-02 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 22:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 13:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-29 14:19 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-04-29 15:37 ` Jordan Crouse
2011-04-28 14:38 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-29 0:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-29 11:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 10:41 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 11:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:25 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:59 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 13:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 13:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:56 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 14:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 9:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 10:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 11:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 0:15 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
2011-04-28 8:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-28 12:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-28 12:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-03 14:45 ` Dave Martin
2011-04-29 15:41 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-29 16:42 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2011-05-03 15:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-03 15:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 14:06 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 14:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 14:34 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2011-04-27 20:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-27 21:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 7:24 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " KyongHo Cho
2011-04-28 8:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-27 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-28 9:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 10:27 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-04-28 12:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
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