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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	 Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	"Christoph Lameter (Ampere)" <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	 Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>,
	 Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	 Yin Fengwei <fengwei_yin@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 2/2] arm64, tlbflush: don't TLBI broadcast if page reused in write fault
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 21:14:48 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4zPH0fwBOLQwh1y6jG3tCXHLGRCTyVVSCWb+NfLCEMV0Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a51jfl44.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>

> >
> > static inline void __flush_tlb_page_nosync(struct mm_struct *mm,
> >                                            unsigned long uaddr)
> > {
> >         unsigned long addr;
> >
> >         dsb(ishst);
> >         addr = __TLBI_VADDR(uaddr, ASID(mm));
> >         __tlbi(vale1is, addr);
> >         __tlbi_user(vale1is, addr);
> >         mmu_notifier_arch_invalidate_secondary_tlbs(mm, uaddr & PAGE_MASK,
> >                                                 (uaddr & PAGE_MASK) +
> > PAGE_SIZE);
> > }
>
> IIUC, _nosync() here means doesn't synchronize with the following code.
> It still synchronizes with the previous code, mainly the page table
> changing.  And, Yes.  There may be room to improve this.
>
> > On the other hand, __ptep_set_access_flags() doesn’t seem to use
> > set_ptes(), so there’s no guarantee the updated PTEs are visible to all
> > cores. If a remote CPU later encounters a page fault and performs a TLB
> > invalidation, will it still see a stable PTE?
>
> I don't think so.  We just flush local TLB in local_flush_tlb_page()
> family functions.  So, we only needs to guarantee the page table changes
> are available for the local page table walking.  If a page fault occurs
> on a remote CPU, we will call local_flush_tlb_page() on the remote CPU.
>

My concern is that:

We don’t have a dsb(ish) to ensure the PTE page table is visible to remote
CPUs, since you’re using dsb(nsh). So even if a remote CPU performs
local_flush_tlb_page(), the memory may not be synchronized yet, and it could
still see the old PTE.

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-22  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-13  9:20 [PATCH -v2 0/2] arm, tlbflush: avoid TLBI broadcast if page reused in write fault Huang Ying
2025-10-13  9:20 ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] mm: add spurious fault fixing support for huge pmd Huang Ying
2025-10-14 14:21   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-14 14:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-14 14:49       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-14 14:58         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-14 15:13           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-15  8:43     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-15 11:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-15 12:23         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16  2:22         ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-16  8:25           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-16  8:59             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-16  9:12             ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-13  9:20 ` [PATCH -v2 2/2] arm64, tlbflush: don't TLBI broadcast if page reused in write fault Huang Ying
2025-10-15 15:28   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-10-16  1:35     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  4:08   ` Barry Song
2025-10-22  7:31     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  8:14       ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-10-22  9:02         ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  9:17           ` Barry Song
2025-10-22  9:30             ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  9:37               ` Barry Song
2025-10-22  9:46                 ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22  9:55                   ` Barry Song
2025-10-22 10:22                     ` Barry Song
2025-10-22 10:34                     ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-22 10:52                       ` Barry Song
2025-10-23  1:22                         ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-23  5:39                           ` Barry Song
2025-10-23  6:15                             ` Huang, Ying
2025-10-23 10:18     ` Ryan Roberts

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