From: vincent.guittot@linaro.org (Vincent Guittot)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] sched: pack small tasks
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:53:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtAwKXgCW8ausMXiGV8365Lu8CDd4US-OWFLXPpwPYt0qA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1364301998.5053.17.camel@laptop>
On 26 March 2013 13:46, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 13:25 +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> During the creation of sched_domain, we define a pack buddy CPU for
>> each CPU
>> when one is available. We want to pack at all levels where a group of
>> CPU can
>> be power gated independently from others.
>> On a system that can't power gate a group of CPUs independently, the
>> flag is
>> set at all sched_domain level and the buddy is set to -1. This is the
>> default
>> behavior.
>> On a dual clusters / dual cores system which can power gate each core
>> and
>> cluster independently, the buddy configuration will be :
>>
>> | Cluster 0 | Cluster 1 |
>> | CPU0 | CPU1 | CPU2 | CPU3 |
>> -----------------------------------
>> buddy | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU2 |
>
> I suppose this is adequate for the 'small' systems you currently have;
> but given that Samsung is already bragging with its 'octo'-core Exynos
> 5 (4+4 big-little thing) does this solution scale?
The packing is only done at MC and CPU level to minimize the number of
transition.
>
> Isn't this basically related to picking the NO_HZ cpu; if the system
> isn't fully symmetric with its power gates you want the NO_HZ cpu to be
> the 'special' cpu. If it is symmetric we really don't care which core
> is left 'running' and we can even select a new pack cpu from the idle
> cores once the old one is fully utilized.
I agree that on a symmetric system, we don't really care about which
core is selected but we want to use the same one whenever possible to
prevent a ping pong between several cores or groups of cores, which is
power consuming. By forcing a NOHZ cpu, your background activity will
smoothly pack on this CPU and will not be spread on your system.
When a CPU is fully loaded, we don't fall in a low CPU load use case
and the periodic load balance can handle the situation to select a new
target CPU which is close to the buddy CPU
>
> Re-using (or integrating) with NO_HZ has the dual advantage that you'll
> make NO_HZ do the right thing for big-little (you typically want a
> little core to be the one staying 'awake' and once someone makes NO_HZ
> scale this all gets to scale along with it.
>
I think that you have answered to this question in your comment of
patch 5, isn't it?
Vincent
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-26 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-22 12:25 [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] sched: packing small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/6] Revert "sched: Introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking" Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/6] sched: add a new SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN flag for sched_domain Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] sched: pack small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 10:21 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27 11:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 11:34 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 10:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 10:32 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-26 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 4:33 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27 4:48 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 8:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:53 ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2013-03-26 15:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-03-27 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 8:54 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 11:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 16:36 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 17:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-27 17:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 17:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 18:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 15:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] sched: secure access to other CPU statistics Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] sched: pack the idle load balance Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 14:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 15:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 4:56 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 8:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 8:47 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 10:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 13:32 ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-05 11:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-22 5:45 ` Preeti U Murthy
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtCCCifC=c+xjjnAH_HSqkR80PiQoddQKXPHuZwZawbvcA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-23 2:23 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-23 4:57 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-23 15:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-04-26 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-23 4:36 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] ARM: sched: clear SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN Vincent Guittot
2013-03-23 11:55 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] sched: packing small tasks Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-25 9:58 ` Vincent Guittot
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