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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: Scheduling (unused) board file removal for linux-6.x
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:53:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqJof4gtkYoxbiVSCe147ADNpgasqEgnP5LR8+t8ZRgfyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0Z9vGEQbVRBo84bSyPFM-LF+hs5w8ZA51g2Z+NsdtDQA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 2:44 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> With the multiplatform work completed in the past merge window, and the
> scheduled deprecation of the Samsung s3c platforms, I decided to have a
> look at the remaining board files. There are 196 remaining boards, down
> from 489 boards ten years ago, but my estimate is that only few of those
> ever booted a linux-5.x kernel, and even less for future kernels. The
> question is how to find out which ones are still used, and which ones
> can go.
>
> I would propose that we start by changing the assumption that all boards
> might be used, instead assuming that they are all outdated unless someone
> says that they actually prefer to keep it in the kernel.  I have started
> a list of all 196 boards and annotated the ones that look like candidates
> for removal [1]. If a board you use is on that list, please either reply
> here or add a comment in the document.
>
> Unless someone has a better idea for how to proceed, I would allow
> six months for users to speak up and then remove the orphaned board
> files for the release following the LTS kernel. I can't list all boards
> individually, so here is a breakdown by platform:
>
> s3c24xx
>
> These are all scheduled for removal in early 2023 already, once the next
> longterm stable kernel is out. No changes here, but it seems useful
> to use the same timeline for removing unused board files of the other
> platforms together.
>
> s3c64xx
>
> There are ten board files, which are currently scheduled for removal in
> 2024, along with the DT based boards for this SoC. We can still decide
> to throw out some of the board files earlier though, while keeping the
> platform around.
>
> cns3xxx
>
> There is only one reference board here, the actual products that were
> previously supported, none of the board files from openwrt (now gone) made
> it in, and the DT support was never completed, so the entire platform can
> go away. We could also consider dropping the other arm11mpcore platforms
> (oxnas and the mpcore variants of realview/integrator) at the same time,
> since there are known issues with the CPU core.
>
> iop32x
>
> Some of the NAS devices were still in use two years ago as they have
> a lot of RAM for an ARMv5 based machine, not sure if they still are
> used. If they are, a DT conversion similar to what we did for ixp4xx
> should be possible.
>
> pxa
>
> There are a ton of boards on this one, including seven with qemu support,
> but based on IRC discussions, my feeling is that everyone who worked on
> this has already lost interest a few years ago. There is rudimentary DT
> support, so it may be helpful to pick one or two boards (gumstix?) with
> good qemu support and keep them around for conversion to DT, while
> removing all other boards.

FWIW, u-boot is removing all PXA support.

Rob

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-29 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29 20:42 Scheduling (unused) board file removal for linux-6.x Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-29 20:59 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2022-06-30  7:42   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-03 11:24     ` Alexander Sverdlin
2022-07-03 16:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-04  9:07         ` Nikita Shubin
2022-06-29 22:53 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2022-06-30  7:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-30  6:59 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-06-30  7:10 ` Tony Lindgren
2022-06-30  7:10 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-30  9:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-30  9:22     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-30 12:10       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-30 17:00         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-07-01  2:05           ` Tomasz Figa
2022-06-30  9:39 ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2022-06-30 11:32 ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-01 10:21   ` Daniel Mack
2022-07-01 10:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-01 11:26     ` Alexander Sverdlin
2022-07-01 11:43     ` Linus Walleij
2022-07-01 12:28       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-02  9:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-02 10:06       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-03  7:13         ` Christoph Hellwig

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