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From: robherring2@gmail.com (Rob Herring)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/4] arm64: export effective Image size to bootloaders
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:27:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqKSLur4xuQydOSCSqaTUzYdhJ57vj6Xugo+PvpQjPWaTg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140618164927.GA9612@leverpostej>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:27:12PM +0100, Geoff Levand wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
>> Sorry for such a delay in my reply.
>>
>> On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 10:50 +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
>> > Both the image load offset and the effective image size are forced to be
>> > little-endian regardless of the native endianness of the kernel to
>> > enable bootloaders to load a kernel of arbitrary endianness. Bootloaders
>> > which wish to make use of the load offset can inspect the effective
>> > image size field for a non-zero value to determine if the offset is of a
>> > known endianness.
>>
>> Doing this conversion in the linker script seems complicated.  My
>> thought was to just have an image header field that specifies the
>> byte order, in the same way that the EI_DATA part of the ELF
>> e_ident field does.
>
> While the conversion in the linker script is a little ugly, it does
> work, and that complexity is hidden behind the macro I added.
>
> While I initially considered having a field to specify byte order, it's
> incredibly likely that bootloaders will not use it. Maintaining a fixed
> endianness everywhere makes it simpler for bootloaders to do the right
> thing, and matches what existing bootloaders are already doing. That's
> less pain for loaders and less pain for the kernel, as things are less
> likely to go wrong.
>
> To me it makes more sense to ensure these fields have a consistent
> endianness, rather than adding more room for possible mistakes.
>
>> Another advantage of having the byte order in the header is that
>> tools other than a boot loader that need to know the byte order
>> can get that info from the header, otherwise they would need to
>> guess the order with some kind of inspection.
>
> What kind of tools do you envision which would need to know the
> endianness of the kernel but would be looking at the Image rather than
> the vmlinux?

Seems like this has the same problem as being discussed for arm32:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1727993

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-16  9:50 [PATCH 0/4] arm64: simplify restrictions on bootloaders Mark Rutland
2014-05-16  9:50 ` [PATCH 1/4] arm64: head.S: remove unnecessary function alignment Mark Rutland
2014-05-16 13:04   ` Christopher Covington
2014-05-20 16:20   ` Laura Abbott
2014-05-16  9:50 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64: place initial page tables above the kernel Mark Rutland
2014-05-20 16:21   ` Laura Abbott
2014-05-16  9:50 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: export effective Image size to bootloaders Mark Rutland
2014-05-20 14:12   ` Tom Rini
2014-05-20 16:22   ` Laura Abbott
2014-06-16 20:27   ` Geoff Levand
2014-06-18 16:49     ` Mark Rutland
2014-06-18 18:27       ` Rob Herring [this message]
2014-06-18 18:41       ` Geoff Levand
2014-06-19 10:25         ` Mark Rutland
2014-06-19 18:07           ` Geoff Levand
2014-06-20 10:17             ` Mark Rutland
2014-06-18 18:56       ` Kevin Hilman
2014-06-18 23:03       ` [PATCH] arm64: Add byte order to image header Geoff Levand
2014-06-18 23:07         ` [PATCH] arm64: Add new file asm/image.h Geoff Levand
2014-05-16  9:50 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm64: Enable TEXT_OFFSET fuzzing Mark Rutland
2014-05-16 14:06   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-16 16:55     ` Mark Rutland
2014-05-20 14:11       ` Tom Rini
2014-05-20 16:08         ` Mark Rutland
2014-05-21 10:18           ` Mark Rutland
2014-05-20 11:31 ` [PATCH 0/4] arm64: simplify restrictions on bootloaders Ian Campbell

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