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From: robherring2@gmail.com (Rob Herring)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] at91sam9_wdt: Allow watchdog to reset device at early boot
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:10:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqLgb36Vek-Pwb8CYAfQ=MBv3QUO5Tf27j701ET2FKo1zQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150223161948.GA2165@roeck-us.net>

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Timo Kokkonen wrote:
> [ ... ]
>
>>
>> After all, we do have already watchdog_init_timeout function that parses the
>> watchdog timeout argument from either device tree or from command line. How
>> about if we expanded that interface? Maybe have a more generic
>> watchdog_init_parmas() or something that parses the generic watchdog
>> arguments, either from command line, device tree or ACPI or something. The
>> device driver could replace call from watchdog_init_timeout() to
>> watchdog_init_params() once it is ready to support other generic parameters,
>> such as early-timeout-sec. Then the watchdog driver could do the right thing
>> about whether watchdog should be left running or stopped and how long time
>> should be given.
>>
> Good idea.
>
>> Alternatively, we could also let the watchdog core know a little more about
>> the actual watchdog hardware, such as whether the HW is stoppable, whether
>> it needs manual pinging by the kernel until user space has taken over. Or

Whether the h/w is stoppable or not is certainly a reasonable DT
property. The maximum h/w timeout would be too (although that may just
be a property of counter size and clock rate).

> Yes, all that will be needed. But, still, the stop-gap is that we'll need to
> get buyin from the DT folks for the necessary properties. I have had the
> outline for the necessary watchdog core implementation in my mind for a long
> time, but I just don't have the time (nor the patience, quite frankly)
> to get DT buyin.

Defining wdog core functionality and behavior has little to do with DT
and you don't need buy in. Presumably you care about non-DT platforms
as well. Moving more of the intelligence to the core would be a good
thing and for the most part should be independent of DT.

Rob

>> maybe we can just extend the timeout values until the user space has first
>> opened it and then shorten the timeout automatically so that it doesn't take
>> that long for the device to reset after a crash. Or some other behaviour
>> that is common to many users. Suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Anyway, that is something that needs to be done to make watchdog core take
>> more control over more of the generic watchdog behaviour. It just needs to
>> be done so that we don't need to convert all drivers at once.
>>
> Correct. It should not be that difficult do do that if designed properly.
>
> Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-23 10:40 [PATCH] at91sam9_wdt: Allow watchdog to reset device at early boot Timo Kokkonen
2014-11-12  8:20 ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-11-13  9:12   ` Nicolas Ferre
2014-11-14  8:40     ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-11-21 12:23       ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-11-27  6:53         ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-11-27  9:22           ` Nicolas Ferre
2014-11-27 17:23             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-11-27 19:06               ` Boris Brezillon
2014-11-27 19:31                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-11-28  0:30                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2014-11-28  6:40                   ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-11-27 19:00         ` Boris Brezillon
2014-11-28  6:42           ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-12-05 12:57           ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-12-05 14:12             ` Boris Brezillon
2014-12-05 18:42               ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-12-05 19:02                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-05 20:32                   ` Timo Kokkonen
2014-12-05 21:39                     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-06 10:11                       ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-01-13 14:53                         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-14  6:09                           ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-18 12:57                           ` [PATCHv3 0/2] watchdog: Introduce "early-timeout-sec" property Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-18 12:57                             ` [PATCH 1/2] devicetree: Document generic watchdog properties Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-18 12:57                             ` [PATCH 2/2] at91sam9_wdt: Allow watchdog to reset device at early boot Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-18 13:21                               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-18 13:59                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-18 14:17                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-18 14:50                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-18 16:00                                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-02-18 17:50                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-18 20:21                                         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-19  6:02                                           ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-18 21:11                                       ` Rob Herring
2015-02-19  6:14                                         ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-20 14:06                                           ` Rob Herring
2015-02-20 16:28                                             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 19:43                                               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-20 20:04                                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20  7:48                               ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2015-02-20  7:51                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-20 16:33                                   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2015-02-20 17:16                                     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-20 18:06                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23  7:29                                         ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-23  8:51                                           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-02-23  9:11                                             ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-23 16:19                                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-23 17:10                                                 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2015-02-23 17:43                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20  8:00                                 ` Timo Kokkonen
2015-02-20 16:09                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-18 13:16                             ` [PATCHv3 0/2] watchdog: Introduce "early-timeout-sec" property Boris Brezillon
2015-02-18 13:51                               ` Timo Kokkonen

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