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From: santosh.shilimkar@ti.com (Shilimkar, Santosh)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/2] ARM: delay: allow timer-based delay implementation to be selected
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:41:43 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMQu2gx9EU4GZ634RKiwD+sg0MoO-FAqc-pPU+HkryX8rXVBjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5004D78E.4050606@renesas.com>

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Shinya Kuribayashi
<shinya.kuribayashi.px@renesas.com> wrote:
> Will, Stephen and Santosh,
>
> On 7/13/2012 8:13 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
>> I was anticipating that the platform would set the initial loops_per_jiffy
>> value if it requires udelays before loop calibration and the default of 4k
>> is wildly off.
>
> I overlooked two different lpj setups were involved at hand.
>
> First one was, the initial loops_per_jiffy value of 4k was too small for
> almost all processors running Linux today, so I set up loops_per_jiffy
> _early_, calculated from the CPU clock speed.  I didn't mentioned this
> before, sorry for confusion.
>
> So my initial loops_per_jiffy is not 4k at this point.  It's optimized
> for loop-based delay with the CPU running at 1.2GHz (much bigger than
> default 4k).
>
> And later, init_current_timer_delay() got processed.  Actual udelay()
> behavior switched from loop-based delay to timer-based one immediately,
> while my loops_per_jiffy was not changed/updated to appropriate value.
>
> This is why my udelay()s, used after init_current_timer_delay(), were
> taking considerable long time to expire.   Note that my initial tests
> for Will's patchset was done using a loadable module dedicated for
> udelay tests, that was prepared for 2.6.35/3.0 kernels beforehand.
>
> And this time, I confirmed that updating loops_per_jiffy at the same
> time as lpj_fine, works perfectly as expected for me.
>
>> If people need loops_per_jiffy to be updated at the same time as lpj_fine,
>> I can post that as a separate patch (below) as Russell has merged v2 of these
>> patches into his delay branch. That said, I'd certainly like to know if this
>> is actually a real problem (and can't be solved by choosing a compromise value
>> as the initial loops_per_jiffy). I think Shinya was doing some tests so
>> I'll wait to see how those went.
>
> From my observations:
>
> (1) loops_per_jiffy can easily be calculated from the CPU clock speed.
> If your platform is capable of detecting CPU frequency at run-time,
> settingi up loops_per_jiffy _early_ can allow you early use of udelay()s.
>
> Or even if you don't need udelay() early, setting up lpj_fine (or having
> calibrate_delay_is_known()) allows you to skip calibrate_delay() later.
> This is useful and can be applied to both UP and SMP systems.
>
> (2) For SMP platforms, if you need ealy use of udelay(), you have to
> update loops_per_jiffy at the same time as init_current_timer_delay().
> It could be done in init_current_timer_delay(), or platforms can take
> care of that, that need udelay() available early.  Either one should be
> fine with me.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. CPU clock detection is indeed the
nit way to skip the calibration overhead and this was one of the comment
when I tried to push the skipping of calibration for secondary CPUs.

Looks like you have a working patch for the clock detection. Will
you able to post that patch so that this long pending calibration
for secondary CPUs gets optimized.

Regards
Santosh

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-17  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-29 17:33 [PATCH v2 0/2] Use architected timers for delay loop Will Deacon
2012-06-29 17:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] ARM: arch timer: implement read_current_timer and get_cycles Will Deacon
2012-07-02 19:14   ` Stephen Boyd
2012-07-05 12:35   ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-05 12:59     ` Will Deacon
2012-06-29 17:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ARM: delay: allow timer-based delay implementation to be selected Will Deacon
2012-07-02 19:14   ` Stephen Boyd
2012-07-02 21:53     ` Will Deacon
2012-07-03 12:09   ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-04 15:36     ` Will Deacon
2012-07-05 12:12       ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-05 12:56         ` Will Deacon
2012-07-05 16:51           ` Stephen Boyd
2012-07-05 13:06   ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-05 14:15     ` Will Deacon
2012-07-12  7:33   ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-12  8:44     ` Will Deacon
2012-07-12  9:35       ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-12 16:40         ` Stephen Boyd
2012-07-13  2:16           ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-13  8:57             ` Will Deacon
2012-07-13 10:48               ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-07-13 11:13                 ` Will Deacon
2012-07-13 12:04                   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-07-13 12:08                     ` Will Deacon
2012-07-13 12:14                       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-07-13 12:23                         ` Will Deacon
2012-07-13 12:28                           ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-07-17  3:10                   ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-17  6:11                     ` Shilimkar, Santosh [this message]
2012-07-17  7:42                       ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-17  9:05                         ` Will Deacon
2012-07-19 12:43                           ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-18 17:52                         ` Will Deacon
2012-07-19 15:19                           ` Jonathan Austin
2012-07-20 10:17                             ` Will Deacon
2012-07-24  9:06                               ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2012-07-24  9:15                                 ` Will Deacon

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