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From: ulf.hansson@linaro.org (Ulf Hansson)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 5/9] PM / ACPI: Provide option to disable direct_complete for ACPI devices
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 10:31:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFrRW3BLetxGW=89_Ksoxn4GW_7ebcADT1pyUrAT4ySpjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35832703.Y3V01Ybc1Y@aspire.rjw.lan>

On 28 August 2017 at 03:30, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2017 3:42:35 PM CEST Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:50:40 PM CEST Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:35:49 PM CEST Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:15:26 AM CEST Ulf Hansson wrote:
>> >
>> > [cut]
>> >
>> > > [BTW, it is not entirely clear to me why it ever is necessary to runtime resume
>> > > a device with direct_complete set after __device_suspend(), because it can only
>> > > have direct_complete set at that point if all of the hierarchy below it has
>> > > this flag set too and so runtime PM has to be disabled for all of those
>> > > devices as well.]
>> >
>> > Which makes me realize that we should take a step back and look at what
>> > problems there are.
>> >
>> > First, there are devices (I know about two examples so far and both are PCI)
>> > that may need to be runtime resumed during system suspend for reasons other
>> > than the ones checked by the ACPI PM domain (or the PCI bus type).  There needs
>> > to be a way to indicate that from the driver side.
>> >
>> > However, it still may be valuable to check the power-related conditions for
>> > leaving the device in runtime suspend over system suspend/resume in case
>> > it actually doesn't need to be runtime resumed during system suspend after
>> > all.  That's what the majority of my patch was about.
>> >
>> > The second problem is that the ACPI PM domain (and the PCI bus type)
>> > runtime resumes all devices unconditionally in its ->suspend callback,
>> > even though that may not be necessary for some devices.  Therefore there
>> > needs to be a way to indicate that too.  That still would be good to
>> > have *regardless* of the direct_complete mechanism, because the direct_complete
>> > flag may not be set very often due to dependencies and then the
>> > resume-during-suspend will take place unnecessarily.
>> >
>> > Accordingly, it looks like we need a "no need to resume me" flag in the first
>> > place.  That would indicate to interested pieces of code that, from the
>> > driver perspective, the device doesn't need to be runtime resumed before
>> > invoking its system suspend callbacks.  This should be clear enough to everyone
>> > IMO.
>> >
>> > [Note that if that flag is set for all devices, we may drop it along with
>> > direct_complete, but before that happens both are needed.]
>>
>> I think we are in agreement that direct_complete will not be necessary any
>> more when all drivers/bus types/PM domains and so on can do the "safe
>> suspend", but we're not there yet. :-)
>>
>> > To address the first issue I would add something like the flag in the patches
>> > I sent (but without the ACPI PM domain part which should be covered by the
>> > "no need to resume me" flag above), because that allows the device's ->suspend
>> > callback to run in principle and the driver may use that callback even to
>> > runtime resume the device if that's what it wants to do.  So something like
>> > "run my ->suspend callback even though I might stay in runtime suspend".
>> >
>> > I would probably add driver_flags to dev_pm_info for that to set at the probe
>> > time (and I would make the core clear that on driver removal).
>> >
>> > The complexity concern is there, but honestly I don't see a better way at
>> > this point.
>>
>> So below is a prototype patch.  It still is missing a documentation update, but
>> other than that it should be complete unless I missed something.
>>
>> The way it works is that the SAFE_SUSPEND flag is not looked at by the core
>> at all.  The ACPI PM domain looks at it and the PCI bus type can be modified
>> to take it into account in the future.  That is what causes the "runtime resume
>> during system suspend" to be skipped.
>>
>> In turn, the ALWAYS_SUSPEND flag is only looked at by the core and it causes
>> the decision on whether or not to use direct_complete to be deferred to the
>> __device_suspend_late() time.  If you set it for a PCI device, the effect is
>> equivalent to "no direct_complete".  If you set it for a device in the ACPI
>> PM domain, that depends on whether or not SAFE_SUSPEND is set.  If it isn't
>> set, the effect is equivalent to "no direct_complete" too, but if it is set,
>> the core may still try to use direct_complete for the device, but it will
>> make the decision on it in __device_suspend_late() and then it will not invoke
>> the ->suspend_late callback for the device if it is still runtime suspended.
>> [Note that you cannot runtime resume and runtime suspend again a device during
>> system suspend, so if it is runtime suspended in __device_suspend_late(), it
>> has been runtime suspend all the way since device_prepare().]
>>
>> So say you point the ->suspend_late and ->resume_early callbacks of
>> the designware i2c driver to pm_runtime_force_suspend() and
>> pm_runtime_force_resume(), respectively, and set both the SAFE_SUSPEND
>> and ALWAYS_SUSPEND flags for the device.
>>
>> If system suspend is started and the device is not runtime suspended,
>> direct_complete is not set for it and everything works as usual, so say
>> the device is runtime suspended in device_prepare().  Then, the ACPI PM
>> domain checks the other conditions for leaving it in runtime suspend and
>> returns either 0 or a positive number from acpi_subsys_prepare().
>>
>> If 0 is returned, direct_complete is not set by the core and
>> acpi_subsys_suspend() is called.  It checks the SAFE_SUSPEND flag and sees
>> that the device need not be runtime resumed, so it invokes the driver's
>> ->suspend callback (which is not present, so it doesn't do anything).
>> Next, in __device_suspend_late(), acpi_subsys_suspend_late() is invoked
>> and it calls pm_runtime_force_suspend(), which executes the driver's
>> ->runtime_suspend() callback, and then (if successful) calls
>> acpi_dev_suspend_late() to put the device into a low-power state.  The
>> resume path is a reverse of the above in this case.  So far, so good.
>
> Well, not really, because if the device remains runtime suspended,
> ->runtime_suspend() will not be called by pm_runtime_force_suspend() and
> acpi_dev_suspend_late() should not be called then.
>
> So more changes in the ACPI PM domain are needed after all.

Yes, that's what I thought as well.

Anyway, let me cook a new version of the series - trying to address
the first bits you have pointed out. Then we can continue with
fine-tuning on top, addressing further optimizations of the ACPI PM
domain.

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-28  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-23 14:42 [PATCH v2 0/9] PM / ACPI / i2c: Deploy runtime PM centric path for system sleep Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] PM / ACPI: Restore acpi_subsys_complete() Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 22:41   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] PM / Sleep: Remove pm_complete_with_resume_check() Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] PM / ACPI: Split code validating need for runtime resume in ->prepare() Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] PM / ACPI: Split acpi_lpss_suspend_late|resume_early() Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] PM / ACPI: Provide option to disable direct_complete for ACPI devices Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 23:39   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-24  0:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-24  0:20       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-24  1:03         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-24  9:15           ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-24 16:35             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-24 21:50               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-25 13:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-28  1:30                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-28  8:31                     ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2017-08-28 12:39                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-28 12:54                         ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-28 13:40                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-28 14:24                             ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-28 21:14                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-25  9:28               ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-25 12:23                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-24  8:19     ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-24 14:57       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-25  9:04         ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] PM / ACPI: Enable the runtime PM centric approach for system sleep Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] PM / ACPI: Avoid runtime resuming device in acpi_subsys_suspend|freeze() Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] i2c: designware: Don't resume device in the ->complete() callback Ulf Hansson
2017-08-23 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] i2c: designware: Deploy the runtime PM centric approach for system sleep Ulf Hansson
2017-08-25 14:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] PM / ACPI / i2c: Deploy runtime PM centric path " Jarkko Nikula
2017-08-29  0:18 ` [PATCH 0/3] PM / ACPI / i2c: Runtime PM aware system sleep handling Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29  0:20   ` [PATCH 1/3] PM / core: Add SAFE_SUSPEND driver flag Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29 14:57     ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-29 15:02       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29  0:59   ` [PATCH 2/3] PM / ACPI: Use SAFE_SUSPEND in the generic ACPI PM domain Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29  0:59   ` [PATCH 3/3] PM: i2c-designware-platdrv: System sleep handling rework Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29 16:38     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29 16:40       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29 10:29   ` [PATCH 0/3] PM / ACPI / i2c: Runtime PM aware system sleep handling Johannes Stezenbach
2017-08-29 11:44     ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-29 13:53       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2017-08-29 14:43       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29 15:05         ` Ulf Hansson
2017-08-29 16:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-08-29 14:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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