From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Alexey Klimov <klimov.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ARM: findbit: document ARMv5 bit offset calculation
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 20:42:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1wwoTIjn3dBdLzX@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1wheOT4yP7VCZ0p@yury-laptop>
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 11:37:44AM -0700, Yury Norov wrote:
> + Alexey Klimov
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 06:45:50PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 10:05:29AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:47 AM Russell King (Oracle)
> > > <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Document the ARMv5 bit offset calculation code.
> > >
> > > Hmm. Don't the generic bitop functions end up using this? We do have a
> > > comment in the code that says
> > >
> > > * On ARMv5 and above, the gcc built-ins may rely on the clz instruction
> > > * and produce optimal inlined code in all cases. On ARMv7 it is even
> > > * better by also using the rbit instruction.
> >
> > It's true that the generic code also makes use of the rbit and clz
> > instructions - but in terms of the speed of the functions these only
> > get used once we've found a word that is interesting to locate the
> > bit we want in.
> >
> > > but that 'may' makes me wonder...
> > >
> > > IOW, what is it in the hand-written code that doesn't get done by the
> > > generic code these days?
> >
> > For the _find_first_bit, there isn't much difference in the number
> > of instructions or really what is going on, only the organisation
> > and flow of the code is more inline - but that shouldn't make much
> > of a difference. Yet, there is a definite repeatable measurable
> > difference between the two:
> >
> > random-filled:
> > arm : find_first_bit: 17778911 ns, 16448 iterations
> > generic: find_first_bit: 18596622 ns, 16401 iterations
> >
> > sparse:
> > arm : find_first_bit: 7301363 ns, 656 iterations
> > generic: find_first_bit: 7589120 ns, 655 iterations
> >
> > The bigger difference is in the find_next_bit operations, and this
> > likely comes from the arm32 code not having the hassles of the "_and"
> > and other conditionals that the generic code has:
> >
> > random-filled:
> > arm : find_next_bit: 2242618 ns, 163949 iterations
> > generic: find_next_bit: 2632859 ns, 163743 iterations
> >
> > sparse:
> > arm : find_next_bit: 40078 ns, 656 iterations
> > generic: find_next_bit: 69943 ns, 655 iterations
> >
> > find_next_zero_bit show a greater difference:
> >
> > random-filled:
> > arm : find_next_zero_bit: 2049129 ns, 163732 iterations
> > generic: find_next_zero_bit: 2844221 ns, 163938 iterations
> >
> > sparse:
> > arm : find_next_zero_bit: 3939309 ns, 327025 iterations
> > generic: find_next_zero_bit: 5529553 ns, 327026 iterations
>
> Those numbers disagree with what Alexey has measured on Odroid board
> for A15 but somewhat in line with what he had for A7:
Considering no one has seen these patches until I've just posted
them, frankly I don't think there's any point me looking at anyone
elses results.
These changes make substantial improvements to the arm32 assembly
code versions.
If you want a like-for-like comparison, then please get Alexey to
test with these patches applied. I am confident that he will confirm
my results.
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-28 16:47 [PATCH 0/5] ARM: findbit assembly updates Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-28 16:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] ARM: findbit: document ARMv5 bit offset calculation Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-28 17:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-28 17:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-28 18:37 ` Yury Norov
2022-10-28 19:42 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2022-10-28 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-28 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-28 19:46 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-28 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-28 16:47 ` [PATCH 2/5] ARM: findbit: provide more efficient ARMv7 implementation Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-28 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/5] ARM: findbit: convert to macros Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-28 16:48 ` [PATCH 4/5] ARM: findbit: operate by words Russell King (Oracle)
2022-10-28 16:48 ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: findbit: add unwinder information Russell King (Oracle)
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