From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68D27C00A5A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:16:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References: Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=fOhMbuCq8stL9t9lDblPAN605g5DWYdEKsTTvv3Jc1U=; b=XMZjG22YTP8Rwb qDLC4NzYadR+O61Ry68xyqNa80oTXrtqDSXJdkGggmZP+A9BZI9tV48QuOGacmh6ddokAVHoWzaHz 0hC5d9fHZSbF229z59cSM54/4rJVHkONMEapq9OSSbyjc3r4OJYs/lsNhA2rzlGL329LCeD/Ghc/E iZn8WqrQkyCJok+sn+QtsCTu2n6RlgLEAYmwLqy+ECTJPAsQE3HHq7TowdqLqF0O1ltjD0gqzSbY/ pfsOUBHd+iGqBh9M/g3bpSJelPITyEzkdY+v+vEUcmiBSoXtMJ1qslmA/m7irGeWKpFFb/c0nKLM5 dNm3IVuIcekiXfu5QY/A==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pHvAo-00GD3p-4Y; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:15:22 +0000 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([2001:8b0:10b:1236::1]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pHvAm-00GD3G-1N for linux-arm-kernel@bombadil.infradead.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:15:20 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=10ybaKGDEMNrZJwsXfzl1FfnbRmTCPN7YpUINfERZ28=; b=L/0tR0eKtGHYZtRFgbb4J/TazM jwcMUPJtwquGQc7O2qRObrMoc3DbrRyrPw6llbDvvKc5YR+S8oxReiTZyiHgud38bANV1BvJGVmPw ZBreiPK44g//2XbqFyhvcLxFA1G4radxeNrEsltk3gFb/MO2+7BwuQfND0zlYFjiNrTO0iqmTMIHY 6uf/lY6WYjCAp8nD1X/48axQ/8Csodfz/VbklYybkBH7olSZLVzmpCcW0/EEe0ND1WhiDbhXowLYY zk0RSsGT5eOn/3NHhN6A1QjXlTe2kTSyOLUzIG/lzVj7BI/KNG2VFr2sJfBSsh9nGSt7w8KZzyYH5 BUnxXFnw==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1pHvAp-00A86K-5N; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:15:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:15:23 +0000 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Suren Baghdasaryan Cc: Jann Horn , peterz@infradead.org, Ingo Molnar , Will Deacon , akpm@linux-foundation.org, michel@lespinasse.org, jglisse@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net, dave@stgolabs.net, liam.howlett@oracle.com, ldufour@linux.ibm.com, laurent.dufour@fr.ibm.com, paulmck@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, songliubraving@fb.com, peterx@redhat.com, david@redhat.com, dhowells@redhat.com, hughd@google.com, bigeasy@linutronix.de, kent.overstreet@linux.dev, punit.agrawal@bytedance.com, lstoakes@gmail.com, peterjung1337@gmail.com, rientjes@google.com, axelrasmussen@google.com, joelaf@google.com, minchan@google.com, shakeelb@google.com, tatashin@google.com, edumazet@google.com, gthelen@google.com, gurua@google.com, arjunroy@google.com, soheil@google.com, hughlynch@google.com, leewalsh@google.com, posk@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/41] mm: add per-VMA lock and helper functions to control it Message-ID: References: <20230109205336.3665937-1-surenb@google.com> <20230109205336.3665937-13-surenb@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 02:36:47PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 1:46 PM Jann Horn wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:28 PM Suren Baghdasaryan wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:03 AM Jann Horn wrote: > > > > One thing that might be gnarly here is that I think you might not be > > > > allowed to use up_read() to fully release ownership of an object - > > > > from what I remember, I think that up_read() (unlike something like > > > > spin_unlock()) can access the lock object after it's already been > > > > acquired by someone else. So if you want to protect against concurrent > > > > deletion, this might have to be something like: > > > > > > > > rcu_read_lock(); /* keeps vma alive */ > > > > up_read(&vma->lock); > > > > rcu_read_unlock(); > > > > > > But for deleting VMA one would need to write-lock the vma->lock first, > > > which I assume can't happen until this up_read() is complete. Is that > > > assumption wrong? > > > > __up_read() does: > > > > rwsem_clear_reader_owned(sem); > > tmp = atomic_long_add_return_release(-RWSEM_READER_BIAS, &sem->count); > > DEBUG_RWSEMS_WARN_ON(tmp < 0, sem); > > if (unlikely((tmp & (RWSEM_LOCK_MASK|RWSEM_FLAG_WAITERS)) == > > RWSEM_FLAG_WAITERS)) { > > clear_nonspinnable(sem); > > rwsem_wake(sem); > > } > > > > The atomic_long_add_return_release() is the point where we are doing > > the main lock-releasing. > > > > So if a reader dropped the read-lock while someone else was waiting on > > the lock (RWSEM_FLAG_WAITERS) and no other readers were holding the > > lock together with it, the reader also does clear_nonspinnable() and > > rwsem_wake() afterwards. > > But in rwsem_down_write_slowpath(), after we've set > > RWSEM_FLAG_WAITERS, we can return successfully immediately once > > rwsem_try_write_lock() sees that there are no active readers or > > writers anymore (if RWSEM_LOCK_MASK is unset and the cmpxchg > > succeeds). We're not necessarily waiting for the "nonspinnable" bit or > > the wake. > > > > So yeah, I think down_write() can return successfully before up_read() > > is done with its memory accesses. > > > > (Spinlocks are different - the kernel relies on being able to drop > > references via spin_unlock() in some places.) > > Thanks for bringing this up. I can add rcu_read_{lock/unlock) as you > suggested and that would fix the issue because we free VMAs from > call_rcu(). However this feels to me as an issue of rw_semaphore > design that this locking pattern is unsafe and might lead to UAF. We have/had this problem with normal mutexes too. It was the impetus for adding the struct completion which is very careful to not touch anything after the completion is, well, completed. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel